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**LottiFurmann** · 05-12-2012, 07:53 PM

I had also raised this question before, in addition to pointing out that issues concerning immigration policies and tax breaks are 'rational' issues and not 'emotional' at all.

Jaykay has formed an opinion on Obama's performance and has concluded that he does not deserve to be re-elected. He has arrived at these conclusions rationally, of which there can hardly be any doubt. Where he seems to err is he believes that because his conclusion is arrived at rationally, coming to a contrarian conclusion is irrational. It is a fallacy.

Sir, Let me clarify.

On the question of whether Obama has delivered or not. There can only be 1 answer, YES or NO.

so if you "rationally" analyse the "most important issues" - debt situation, economy, jobs - he has NOT delivered.

Debt moved from 5 to 10 Trillion to 15 Trillion. As a president, one should first solve this problem first. Also Prasad said you have to tax the rich - this will further take the economy into deep recession. However even if the buffet rule is passed, it will only raise 30 billion in 10 yrs?. so is it even worth fighting on this issue ?

economy & Jobs: Housing crisis continues, defaults continuing every month, number of new business ventures are going down, millions & millions are out of work & more getting laid off. Most people out of work for 2 yrs have stopped looking for Jobs.

By spending that additional 5 Trillion, the economy has NOT improved an inch. It is sliding down on all parameters !!
if someone can show facts contrary to the above then I will rest my case.

if people are saying I did not arrive at this conclusion rationally based on hard facts, then they need to show facts to contrary.

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LottiFurmann Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	I had also raised this question before, in addition to pointing out that issues concerning immigration policies and tax breaks are 'rational' issues and not 'emotional' at all. Jaykay has formed an opinion on Obama's performance and has concluded that he does not deserve to be re-elected. He has arrived at these conclusions rationally, of which there can hardly be any doubt. Where he seems to err is he believes that because his conclusion is arrived at rationally, coming to a contrarian conclusion is irrational. It is a fallacy. Sir, Let me clarify. On the question of whether Obama has delivered or not. There can only be 1 answer, YES or NO. so if you "rationally" analyse the "most important issues" - debt situation, economy, jobs - he has NOT delivered. Debt moved from 5 to 10 Trillion to 15 Trillion. As a president, one should first solve this problem first. Also Prasad said you have to tax the rich - this will further take the economy into deep recession. However even if the buffet rule is passed, it will only raise 30 billion in 10 yrs?. so is it even worth fighting on this issue ? economy & Jobs: Housing crisis continues, defaults continuing every month, number of new business ventures are going down, millions & millions are out of work & more getting laid off. Most people out of work for 2 yrs have stopped looking for Jobs. By spending that additional 5 Trillion, the economy has NOT improved an inch. It is sliding down on all parameters !! if someone can show facts contrary to the above then I will rest my case. if people are saying I did not arrive at this conclusion rationally based on hard facts, then they need to show facts to contrary.
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