DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - Brahmin Community

**doctorzlo** · 04-28-2012, 02:47 AM

Dear sir,

I will have to disagree with you here from the point of view of a PIO.
I do not think any community will disintegrate even if they live in the North Pole!!LOL

Ok let me state my points.
A community can only disintegrate if they do not hold on to their views or feel ashamed of it.
Only when they try to be what they are not..they end up being lost in some new found land.

Many of us PIO are still very much within the requirements of our religion and community and culture.
Adopting some new style of living,clothes and trying new food does not mean we are losing ourselves.

Have you given this a thought..correct me if I am wrong.Isn't a Pattar(palghat iyer) actually a TB that had settled in Kerala?
Didnt they assimilate with the local cultural and food habits?
Did they lose anything by doing so?
I feel our Hindu ancestors adapted and assimilated much more than anyone of us.

Our ancient ancestors had even conquered countries which are outside of present day India and no one loss their identity in that process.

We can stay anywhere in this world but our true identity can never change unless we want to change.

Dear Renuka,

Your concluding statement that I have highlighted above, is the crux of the whole issue/concern..

Your conclusion, for me, seem to be just an ideal attitude. But in reality, things are way different than idealism.

Many many PIO's, especially living in western world have gone/are going beyond what we call as personal/traditional identity. Folks have changed/are changing a lot and have started frowning upon their own culture and tradition. In the name of intelligent questioning and logical reasoning many present generation PIO's have lost any interest and sensibility in Brahmin (coz the thread tittle is expressing concern about Brahmin community) culture & tradition.

Many PIO parents are talking hardship to instill Brahmin culture and tradition in their children and are just keeping their fingers crossed, wishing their children continues to accept and practice them as they grow. Parents are many who are just prepared to let their children marry any one belonging to any nationality and religion, considering the living environment/social stimulation.

The sense of revering the departed souls of the parents and ancestors and performing pitru karmas are not considered to be of any importance. Emotional attachment and importance to the near and dear ones in India are considered to be senseless and imbalanced.

The high and sophisticated standard of living, considering the greatness of globalization to the personal level in one's personal life, easy going attitude to leave one and get along with other partner, making joke of Hindu gods and spiritual practices etc..etc..are all leading to rejection of sense of greatness, reverence and acceptance of Hindu/Brahminical culture and tradition.

The indigenous western culture, the legalized offering of extensive pubs & prostitution in western, south eastern, few Middle East countries and the possible fantasies of social networking opportunities between the opposite sex of the world of expatriates are all leading to complete change over of one's identity and the sense of adherence to one's culture and tradition.

IMHO, I my above POV., there is nothing to refute in support of one's personal choice of living. As far as personal choice of living with one's own acceptance is concerned, I have nothing to express my views in support and in against.

But when we just assess the prevailing and most probable continuation of the trend in the future, I believe, my observation about the folks living outside India, in consideration of the Brahmin culture and tradition, are the truth, as just a topic of concern.

04-28-2012, 02:47 AM	#9
doctorzlo Join Date Jun 2006 Posts 4,488 Senior Member	Dear sir, I will have to disagree with you here from the point of view of a PIO. I do not think any community will disintegrate even if they live in the North Pole!!LOL Ok let me state my points. A community can only disintegrate if they do not hold on to their views or feel ashamed of it. Only when they try to be what they are not..they end up being lost in some new found land. Many of us PIO are still very much within the requirements of our religion and community and culture. Adopting some new style of living,clothes and trying new food does not mean we are losing ourselves. Have you given this a thought..correct me if I am wrong.Isn't a Pattar(palghat iyer) actually a TB that had settled in Kerala? Didnt they assimilate with the local cultural and food habits? Did they lose anything by doing so? I feel our Hindu ancestors adapted and assimilated much more than anyone of us. Our ancient ancestors had even conquered countries which are outside of present day India and no one loss their identity in that process. We can stay anywhere in this world but our true identity can never change unless we want to change. Dear Renuka, Your concluding statement that I have highlighted above, is the crux of the whole issue/concern.. Your conclusion, for me, seem to be just an ideal attitude. But in reality, things are way different than idealism. Many many PIO's, especially living in western world have gone/are going beyond what we call as personal/traditional identity. Folks have changed/are changing a lot and have started frowning upon their own culture and tradition. In the name of intelligent questioning and logical reasoning many present generation PIO's have lost any interest and sensibility in Brahmin (coz the thread tittle is expressing concern about Brahmin community) culture & tradition. Many PIO parents are talking hardship to instill Brahmin culture and tradition in their children and are just keeping their fingers crossed, wishing their children continues to accept and practice them as they grow. Parents are many who are just prepared to let their children marry any one belonging to any nationality and religion, considering the living environment/social stimulation. The sense of revering the departed souls of the parents and ancestors and performing pitru karmas are not considered to be of any importance. Emotional attachment and importance to the near and dear ones in India are considered to be senseless and imbalanced. The high and sophisticated standard of living, considering the greatness of globalization to the personal level in one's personal life, easy going attitude to leave one and get along with other partner, making joke of Hindu gods and spiritual practices etc..etc..are all leading to rejection of sense of greatness, reverence and acceptance of Hindu/Brahminical culture and tradition. The indigenous western culture, the legalized offering of extensive pubs & prostitution in western, south eastern, few Middle East countries and the possible fantasies of social networking opportunities between the opposite sex of the world of expatriates are all leading to complete change over of one's identity and the sense of adherence to one's culture and tradition. IMHO, I my above POV., there is nothing to refute in support of one's personal choice of living. As far as personal choice of living with one's own acceptance is concerned, I have nothing to express my views in support and in against. But when we just assess the prevailing and most probable continuation of the trend in the future, I believe, my observation about the folks living outside India, in consideration of the Brahmin culture and tradition, are the truth, as just a topic of concern.
	Quote