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Old 05-04-2012, 10:24 PM   #11
TorryJens

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In this world actually if we dissect it further we would realize that each action is based on making our own self happy.
Even when we love someone without realizing it we are actually loving a person for the sake of the self which infact is no different from the Supreme Self.

Ravi..wait wait!!! before you react to this!!LOL I have backup evidence to this.
Sage Yajnavalkya said this to his wife Maitreyi:

Everything is the Self, O Maitreyi !

Yajnavalkya said:

"Verily, not for the sake of the husband, my dear, is the husband loved, but he is loved for the sake of the self which, in its true nature, is one with the Supreme Self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the wife, my dear, is the wife loved, but she is loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the sons, my dear, are the sons loved, but they are loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of wealth, my dear, is wealth loved, but it is loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the animals, my dear, are the animals loved, but they are loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the brahmin, my dear, is the brahmin loved, but he is loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the kshatriya, my dear, is the kshatriya loved, but he is loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the worlds, my dear, are the worlds loved, but they are loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the gods, my dear, are the gods loved, but they are loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the Vedas, my dear, are the Vedas loved, but they are loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the beings, my dear, are the beings loved, but they are loved for the sake of the self.
"Verily, not for the sake of the All, my dear, is the All loved, but it is loved for the sake of the self.

"Verily, my dear Maitreyi, it is the Self that should be realized—should be heard of, reflected on and meditated upon. By the realisation of the Self, my dear, through hearing, reflection and meditation, all this is known.

taken from:A Dialog between Maitreyi and Yajnavalkya from Brihadaranyaka Upanishad


Dear Manohar sir,we do have this prayer too..where its address purely for our own selves.
(Mama means Mine)

Tvameva Mata ca Pita Tvameva, Tvameva Bandhu ca Sakha Tvameva, Tvameva Vidya DravinamTvameva, Tvameva Sarvam Mama
Deva Deva.
Dear Renuka,

I couldn't understand why you have to request me to wait, before justifying your statement that - "Love for the other is for the sake of self, which in fact is not different from the Supreme Self". LOL!!!!

Your high sounding philosophical quotes are great with out a doubt.

Sometimes too much of awareness of philosophical quotes does not help us to shape our self and see through the realities.

Not a single individual is 100 percent perfect, does not matter what is his/her role in a human relationship and how old or young a person is.

1) A Guy/A Girl as true lovers see that the other is happy, having true love, compassion, trust & respect towards each other - This is what is the acceptance, no matter what are the flaws of the other.

2) A mother/father love's her/his children more than her/his needs - This is what is the acceptance, no matter what are the flaws of her/his children.

3) A son/daughter many a times has to heed to the preferences/selections/offering of his/her mother/father and reject one's own choices. - This is what is the acceptance with trust on parents that they wish only good for us and to not to make them upset. No matter parent's too have their own flaws, in some or other ways.

4) A truly loving Husband/Wife, makes sure that the other is happy for which one has to forgo something - This is what is the acceptance, no matter what are the flaws of the other.

5) A Brother or a Sister, sees that the other sibling also could have his/her share. Also extends a heart felt support at the need of the time, though the problem of the sibling was due to her/his own blunders. - This is what is the acceptance, no matter what are the flaws of the other.

In all the above relationships and circumstances, you love the other for the self and that is nothing but a Supreme Love that makes you feel the highest pleasure by losing something or other, by some way or other, from your Supreme Self.

That's what is the beauty of acceptance of the other the way they are, in a relationship. It makes each and every one complete, personally and collectively. Mutual exchange of acceptance and the joy of having lost something personally for the sake of other is what all about beautiful relationship.

Let us not lose the charm of this beautiful and meaningful relationship with our heartfelt acceptance, fooling our self with a wrong notion that - Humans are completely influenced only by their own Supreme Self, so leave everyone and ONLY be dedicated to GOD, in all the Bhakthi and Glory of the God, such that The Supreme Self will not be flawed.

Let us not confuse with the Spiritual Philosophy of realizing the absolute self to get dissolved with the supreme being WITH that of our role, in our life, in our relationships, in which, we as Humans are challenged to achieve the SELF and subsequently the Supreme Self.

Human life has its own charm along with fellow humans, where the Supreme Self 'LOSES" something "only to retain" the "PUREST SUPREME SELF"


Dear Renuka,

I don't believe in back up evidences supported by scriptures in my attempt to live my human life, along with fellow humans, in relationships to the fullest, with my best possible right sense, understanding and acceptance - to achieve to satisfy the self and also to lose to achieve my purest supreme self.

Every one have their way of living. Either by realizations about the life and human relationships on one's own OR by only following and adhering to scriptured quotes (that may be with complete understanding or half backed understanding of in which context and for what purpose such things were quoted)

I share here only my views. Neither to impose on others nor to claim that my views are perfect. And this would continue as long as I feel like posting my views in this Forum.

So, you need not to strain yourself to alarm me to wait...


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