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**Lillie_Steins** · 05-07-2012, 04:15 AM

Akasham Akandam - can u pl. give the ref? How does that suggest or prove 'God is a-roopi/formless' ?

Space has properties like dimensions/ boundaries, can be contained, can contain many things, pervasive etc. Plus, Space is the substratum for everything that exists. Anything that has properties is a Substance/entity that is existing, real and concrete and hence cannot be called "nothing" or "unreal"!!

Answer to your first query :One of the Panch boothsthalam is Chidambaram. Even though we worship Nataraja there it is AKASHAM which is GOD. We cannot confine him to any particular form. We give physical form (we have several of them) for our own convenience as if someone says you worship akasham it would be difficult for us as normal mortals. The other panchaboothasthalam is Thiruvannamalai. Agni which is God there eventhough we see/worship Arunachala. THis is again for our own convenience.

Space cannot be confined by our limited understanding of cosmos. THe bigger the telescopes you install the bigger it becomes. you find many more things. these are in the space but not space. there is no boundary for akasham
and hence it is akandam.

How do you know that? Though Lord is pervasive in everything, He still appeared in various forms. When Nrusimha came out of the pillar, He appeared in a fierce form. When VarAha appeared out of that churned matter, He was humongous. So, How can you assume He is formless??

Pancha maha boothas which are basis for the universe is GOD. He can come in anyform from anywhere out of aksham (wherein in aksham.???) from thin air...(vayu... where in vayu..??) and GOD can also dissolve/disappear into akasham or other without a trace.... Vedas clearly state he is formless....

If you mean 'invisibility is Greatness', then the microbes are great too!

Greatness of GOD comes as he is part of everything still aroopi.... microbes are not part of everything....

Acc. to Vedas, "HE/The Intelligent SELF/SAT alone existed in the beginning and HE created many". So, HE did not come from anything or nothing, but everything that exists created out of Him. !!

Are your disproving vedas to prove some illogical 'Suniyam theory'?

'Akashath vayuhu' means 'Vayu(air) emanates from Akasha(ether/space)', how did 'nothing' come into this picture?[/QUOTE]

What i mean here is normally we look for source of every thing. when you say akashath vayuhu... where in akasham vayu is generated.....??!!

05-07-2012, 04:15 AM	#36
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	Akasham Akandam - can u pl. give the ref? How does that suggest or prove 'God is a-roopi/formless' ? Space has properties like dimensions/ boundaries, can be contained, can contain many things, pervasive etc. Plus, Space is the substratum for everything that exists. Anything that has properties is a Substance/entity that is existing, real and concrete and hence cannot be called "nothing" or "unreal"!! Answer to your first query :One of the Panch boothsthalam is Chidambaram. Even though we worship Nataraja there it is AKASHAM which is GOD. We cannot confine him to any particular form. We give physical form (we have several of them) for our own convenience as if someone says you worship akasham it would be difficult for us as normal mortals. The other panchaboothasthalam is Thiruvannamalai. Agni which is God there eventhough we see/worship Arunachala. THis is again for our own convenience. Space cannot be confined by our limited understanding of cosmos. THe bigger the telescopes you install the bigger it becomes. you find many more things. these are in the space but not space. there is no boundary for akasham and hence it is akandam. How do you know that? Though Lord is pervasive in everything, He still appeared in various forms. When Nrusimha came out of the pillar, He appeared in a fierce form. When VarAha appeared out of that churned matter, He was humongous. So, How can you assume He is formless?? Pancha maha boothas which are basis for the universe is GOD. He can come in anyform from anywhere out of aksham (wherein in aksham.???) from thin air...(vayu... where in vayu..??) and GOD can also dissolve/disappear into akasham or other without a trace.... Vedas clearly state he is formless.... If you mean 'invisibility is Greatness', then the microbes are great too! Greatness of GOD comes as he is part of everything still aroopi.... microbes are not part of everything.... Acc. to Vedas, "HE/The Intelligent SELF/SAT alone existed in the beginning and HE created many". So, HE did not come from anything or nothing, but everything that exists created out of Him. !! Are your disproving vedas to prove some illogical 'Suniyam theory'? 'Akashath vayuhu' means 'Vayu(air) emanates from Akasha(ether/space)', how did 'nothing' come into this picture?[/QUOTE] What i mean here is normally we look for source of every thing. when you say akashath vayuhu... where in akasham vayu is generated.....??!!
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