My post had two reference, the first part was to you. The second was to post#8. What I meant was Swaminarayan group does not discriminate on caste basis. My problem with some of the people in this site is their preoccupation with the birth based caste compartmentation. I am saying that except for the vote bank politics, caste should not be the basis of limiting our abilities. Caste can be an identity, but should not be the limitation for individual's growth. Individual's achievement is not a caste achievement. I personally know members who are from other than Patel group.