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**LottiFurmann** · 09-01-2006, 08:00 AM

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In Tamil literature section, we had some topics where a poet has praised cheraman ilanchetchenji(forgot his name) as the person who provided food to the Pandavas during the kurukshetra battle.

Would you be able to handle this posting in TSCII? The posting is in Tamil. References to Ramayana and Mahabaratha in Tamil Sangam Classics are extensive. The particular verse you are speaking about is Verse 2 of puranAnuru. chEraman perum sOtru uthiyanj chEralAthan is the King and muranjiyUr mudinAga-rAyar is the poet. The following are the lines.

«ÄíÌ¨Çô ÒÃÅ¢ ³ÅÕ¼ý º¢¨Éþ
¿¢Äó¾¨Äì ¦¸¡ñ¼ ¦À¡Äõâó Ðõ¨À
®¨Ãõ À¾¢ýÁÕõ ¦À¡ÕÐ¸Çò ¦¾¡Æ¢Âô
¦ÀÕï§º¡üÚ Á¢ÌÀ¾õ Å¨ÃÂ¡Ð ¦¸¡Îò§¾¡ö.

(ÒÈ ¿¡ëÚ)

A discussion on the subject went on in Yahoo group, Marabilakkiam http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marabilakkiyam and Agathiyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar since there was a dispute on the reference 'aiyvar' and 'nUtruvar' may not mean Pandavas and Kauravas. My friend, Madhurabharati, then went extensively into various Sangam Classics and gave a reference of various verses that point to this particular Chera King. I give below the particular references cited by my friend, Madhurabharati.

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«ýÒûÇ †Ã¢, ÀÍÀ¾¢,

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«ìÌÃý - þ¨¼§ÂØ ÅûÇø¸Ç¢ø ´ÕÅý;

(À¾¢üÚôÀòÐ: À¡¼ø 14)

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¸¡÷¦ºö ÌÆø ¬¼ ¬§¼¡§Á¡ °ºø;
¸¼õÒ ±È¢ó¾Å¡À¡Ê ¬¼¡§Á¡ °ºø!

(º¢ÄôÀ¾¢¸¡Ãõ: Å¡úòÐì¸¡¨¾: 25)

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¦Åñ §¸¡ðÎ þÕõ À¢½õ ÌÕ¾¢ ®÷ôÀ
®÷ ³õÀ¾¢ýÁÕõ ¦À¡ÕÐ ¸ÇòÐ «Å¢Â 415

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´ýÉ¡ò ¦¾ùÅ÷ ¯¨ÄÅ¢¼òÐ ¬÷òÐ
¸îº¢§Â¡§É ¨¸Åñ §¾¡ýÈø 420

(¦¿Î¿ø Å¡¨¼)

±Ã¢¸Å÷Ò ¯ñ¼ ¸Ã¢ÒÈô ¦ÀÕ¿¢Äô
À£Î¦¸Ø ÁÕí¸¢ý µÎÁ¨Æ ÐÈó¦¾É
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ÁÈôÀ¨¼ì Ì¾¢¨Ã Á¡È¡ ¨Áó¾¢ý
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ÜÇ¢î ÍüÈõ ÌÆ£þÂ¢Õó ¾¡íÌ

(«¸¿¡ëÚ: 233)

¿¡Î¸ñ «¸üÈ¢Â ¯¾¢Âï§ºÃü
À¡Êî ¦ºýÈ ÀÃ¢º¢Ä÷ §À¡Ä
¯Å þÉ¢ Å¡Æ¢! §¾¡Æ¢!

(«¸¿¡ëÚ: 65; Á¡ãÄÉ¡÷)

End of quote.

Though the references are extensive, they are not exhaustive. It is to be remembered that these speak about just only one incident, namely, the particular Chera King feeding both Kauravas and Pandavas ( and not to Pandavas alone, Vigopp, please

)

Many more incidents of the Mahabaratha and Ramayana are found in ancient Tamil Literature.

09-01-2006, 08:00 AM	#17
LottiFurmann Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Balaji In Tamil literature section, we had some topics where a poet has praised cheraman ilanchetchenji(forgot his name) as the person who provided food to the Pandavas during the kurukshetra battle. Would you be able to handle this posting in TSCII? The posting is in Tamil. References to Ramayana and Mahabaratha in Tamil Sangam Classics are extensive. The particular verse you are speaking about is Verse 2 of puranAnuru. chEraman perum sOtru uthiyanj chEralAthan is the King and muranjiyUr mudinAga-rAyar is the poet. The following are the lines. «ÄíÌ¨Çô ÒÃÅ¢ ³ÅÕ¼ý º¢¨Éþ ¿¢Äó¾¨Äì ¦¸¡ñ¼ ¦À¡Äõâó Ðõ¨À ®¨Ãõ À¾¢ýÁÕõ ¦À¡ÕÐ¸Çò ¦¾¡Æ¢Âô ¦ÀÕï§º¡üÚ Á¢ÌÀ¾õ Å¨ÃÂ¡Ð ¦¸¡Îò§¾¡ö. (ÒÈ ¿¡ëÚ) A discussion on the subject went on in Yahoo group, Marabilakkiam http://groups.yahoo.com/group/marabilakkiyam and Agathiyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agathiyar since there was a dispute on the reference 'aiyvar' and 'nUtruvar' may not mean Pandavas and Kauravas. My friend, Madhurabharati, then went extensively into various Sangam Classics and gave a reference of various verses that point to this particular Chera King. I give below the particular references cited by my friend, Madhurabharati. Quote: «ýÒûÇ †Ã¢, ÀÍÀ¾¢, ´Õ ºÁÂò¾¢ø þó¾ ÁýÉ¨Éô ÀüÈ¢ Å¢ÅÃÁ¡¸ ¬öóÐ ÌÈ¢ôÒ¸û ±Îò¾ÐñÎ. ¬É¡ø Å¢Ã¢òÐ ±Ø¾î ºÁÂõ Å¡öì¸Å¢ø¨Ä. þ§¾¡ ÌÈ¢ôÒ¸û ÁðÎõ: ¿¢Äõ ¿£÷ ÅÇ¢ Å¢ÍõÒ ±ýÈ ¿¡ý¸¢ý «ÇôÒ «Ã¢¨Â§Â ¿¡û §¸¡û ¾¢í¸û »¡Â¢Ú ¸¨É «Æø ³óÐ ´ÕíÌ Ò½÷ó¾ Å¢Çì¸òÐ «¨É¨Â §À¡÷ ¾¨ÄÁ¢Ìò¾ ®÷ ³õÀ¾¢ýÁ¦Ã¡Î ÐôÒò Ð¨È§À¡¸¢Â Ð½¢×¨¼ ¬ñ¨Á «ìÌÃý «¨ÉÂ ¨¸Åñ¨Á¨Â§Â «ìÌÃý - þ¨¼§ÂØ ÅûÇø¸Ç¢ø ´ÕÅý; (À¾¢üÚôÀòÐ: À¡¼ø 14) µ÷ ³Å÷ ®¨ÃõÀ¾¢ýÁ÷ ¯¼ý¦ÈØó¾ §À¡Ã¢ø ¦ÀÕï§º¡Ú §À¡üÈ¡Ð ¾¡ÉÇ¢ò¾ §ºÃý, ¦À¡¨ÈÂý, Á¨ÄÂý ¾¢ÈõÀ¡Êì ¸¡÷¦ºö ÌÆø ¬¼ ¬§¼¡§Á¡ °ºø; ¸¼õÒ ±È¢ó¾Å¡À¡Ê ¬¼¡§Á¡ °ºø! (º¢ÄôÀ¾¢¸¡Ãõ: Å¡úòÐì¸¡¨¾: 25) «ùÅ¡ö ÅÇ÷À¢¨È ÝÊî ¦ºùÅ¡ö «ó¾¢ Å¡ÉòÐ ¬Î Á¨Æ ¸ÎôÀ ¦Åñ §¸¡ðÎ þÕõ À¢½õ ÌÕ¾¢ ®÷ôÀ ®÷ ³õÀ¾¢ýÁÕõ ¦À¡ÕÐ ¸ÇòÐ «Å¢Â 415 §À÷ «Á÷ì¸¼ó¾ ¦¸¡Îïº¢ ¦¿Îó§¾÷ ¬Ã¡î ¦ºÕÅ¢ý ³Å÷ §À¡Ä «¼í¸¡ò ¾¡¨É§Â¡Î ¯¼ýÚ §ÁøÅó¾ ´ýÉ¡ò ¦¾ùÅ÷ ¯¨ÄÅ¢¼òÐ ¬÷òÐ ¸îº¢§Â¡§É ¨¸Åñ §¾¡ýÈø 420 (¦¿Î¿ø Å¡¨¼) ±Ã¢¸Å÷Ò ¯ñ¼ ¸Ã¢ÒÈô ¦ÀÕ¿¢Äô À£Î¦¸Ø ÁÕí¸¢ý µÎÁ¨Æ ÐÈó¦¾É °É¢ø Â¡¨É ¯ÂíÌõ §ÅÉ¢ø ÁÈôÀ¨¼ì Ì¾¢¨Ã Á¡È¡ ¨Áó¾¢ý ÐÈì¸õ ±ö¾¢Â ¦¾¡öÂ¡ ¿øÄ¢¨º Ó¾¢Â÷ô§À½¢Â ¯¾¢Âï§ºÃø ¦ÀÕï§º¡Ú ¦¸¡Îò¾ »¡ý¨È, þÕõÀø ÜÇ¢î ÍüÈõ ÌÆ£þÂ¢Õó ¾¡íÌ («¸¿¡ëÚ: 233) ¿¡Î¸ñ «¸üÈ¢Â ¯¾¢Âï§ºÃü À¡Êî ¦ºýÈ ÀÃ¢º¢Ä÷ §À¡Ä ¯Å þÉ¢ Å¡Æ¢! §¾¡Æ¢! («¸¿¡ëÚ: 65; Á¡ãÄÉ¡÷) End of quote. Though the references are extensive, they are not exhaustive. It is to be remembered that these speak about just only one incident, namely, the particular Chera King feeding both Kauravas and Pandavas ( and not to Pandavas alone, Vigopp, please ) Many more incidents of the Mahabaratha and Ramayana are found in ancient Tamil Literature.
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