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Rrk, has put a simple query, but highly thoughtful and needs complete History to be seen. Firstly Vegetarianism is not Vedic, but influenced by Buddhist and Jains. Firstly I Explain with example, by all available Proofs Buddhism came to Tamilnadu by King Asoka, first landing at Srilanka, and then Crossing to TN. Srilankan Bud-Bikshus have always been Non-Vegetarians in History. So fully putting that Buddists and Jains are responsible is not fully supported by History. Secondly Buddhism and Jainism are not Different Religions to say. They are Developments of Reformations, as a branch of Hinduism, as Protestants to Christinaity. 20th Century Cunning Missionary Minded Indologists divide and called it that way. All Buddhist Statues and Stupas where Buddha is depicted has with Tilak in Head, and quiet a few Godess Lakshmi Statues have been in Archeological findings dated to PreBCE datings in this Stupa areas, and similar is Jainism.
Rrk, puts Rational Question-Did God Created Man? Friend This thread is on Saivite God worship method, I am sure I CAN present Theistic views.
For Rrk- friend Vupanishads have Argued all positions including Atheistic and Buddhism and Jainism are Historically developments of Vupanisadic Argument and the Oldest Lit. of both are More Agnostic, than Theistic is the Truth, with belief in Karma Theory, of repeated Births.
Personally I believe more Agnostic, and with Para Sciences proving Repeated Births, I Trust Karma Theory is scientific. Every Activity You do in this birth would give reflect in your Next Birth, in which Country you are born, to which family, are you full or with any Physical or Mental Handicaps etc.,, are all Decided before Birth and the Individual Child has no choice.
Rrk- I ACCEPT that All Humans were first created in Africa and later moved to other Continents. However We need to understand, man is another Animal till Man started using Brains, and thrived in Civilisation, by Destroying Forests and making Villages and Towns. Friends, all these happened only after the Great IceMelt AS Scientist call around BCE12,000 and Probably speaking all started later.
Man as a Mammal was made Vegetarian and not otherwise is the Scientific view. Simple example is look at all Vegetarian Mammals, they do not have Harsh Teeth to eat Flesh of other Animals, and similar is the Internal Digestive System. Of all Animals in land Elephant a Vegetarian Lives for long life, with Stamina for long hours, Horses run with Vegetarian food, for example. Man must live for up to 150 to 200 years Healthily, but due to his wrong eating habits we see all sorts of ailments and life time curtailed, Digestive power of Man reduces and every Doctor asks you to eat less you cross 40.
So Science do not support Non-Vegetarianism, Man Lives non for his Needs but for Desires and get into troubles, and Non Vegetarianism is one.
Vedas belong to a Period of BCE 2000 or earlier, Now world is changed and become a village, even a Desert or a Famine Hit Country can import from other parts Vegetarian foods. You showed Eskimos; even they can live with Canned Veg. foods. I Do not compel anybody, but give you both Scientific and Theistic Views, as Tiruvalluvar said Very clearly on that, so below-
Than Vun Perkkathirku Than Pirithu Vun Vunban
Enkanam Alum Arul. Kural-251
If some body eats Flesh of other animal to maintain his body and flesh, he cannot expect Divine Blessings. Everybody must avoid eating Meat etc., if you want to reach God' Blessings.
Hence Vegetarian is not only Theistic, but Scientific, Rrk on your other links I have answered basically, still I NEED much more detailed answer in coming postings. If need be please Open another Thread on Vegetarian verses Non-Veg and let me link you to various Scientific sites.
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