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Originally Posted by Sudhaama Why Ranganatha chose Manavala Mamuni as His Guru.?

Why Ranganatha chose a guru - another perspective

Thondaradipodi Alwar in his Tirumalai claims Lord Rangantha as the combined manifestation of Lord Rama and Lord Krishna. Lord Rama had Viswamitra has His guru and Lord Krishna had Sandipani Muni as His guru. Lord Ranganatha in order not to be left out chose Manavala Mamuni as His guru in Kali yuga. The disciple is Alagiya Manavalan (Lord Ranganatha) and the guru is Alagiya Manavala Mamuni.

This Sri Sailesa dayapatram slokam is considered to be on par with the Tirumantra as both are from Sriman Narayana. .

Lord Rama had the Sage Vasishta as His Guru... while Krishna had the Sage Santheepini as His Guru...

...Lord Vishnu being in the Descended form as exemplary MAN on Earth.

But such a Sense and Concept during Vibhava Awatharas were totally different from the present context of Lord Ranganatha having HIS DEVOTEE Manavala Mamuni himself as His Guru. How.?

Lord Rama and Krishna are the Awatharas intended to show to the humanity... by DEMONSTRATION... AS MAN.

..Whereas during Archawathara as the Temple Deities during Kaliyuga... He has never declared as Man or any such lower status than God...

...but AS GOD ONLY in Temples.

During Vibhawatharas such as Rama and Krishna... the God was exhibitive coupled with substantiating events, Discussions and Debates as to how any member of Mankind has to lead the Ideal Earthly life as the Supreme Human-birth...

...while how he/she may have to confront with the challenging circumstances...

...trying to defeat his emulative Dharmic principles... so called Life Code of practice,

...duly complying with the stature as the Wisest creature endowed with the rare Soul-power too... unlike any other Earthly-creature.

So God enacted the dramas duly incorporating with several other matching characters to convey His preachings translated into practice.

In such a course of Human order of Life... He wanted to insist on the indispensability of a Guru... to duly guide him time to time... while facing challenges and embarassments by Realities.

So as Rama and Krishna openly declared "I am ONE WITH YOU.. I am also a Human-being like you...

...and in NO WAY DIFFERENT... NOR SUPERIOR to you... other than a Model-man.

..So what I have demonstrated by words and actions... you all the Mankind too can and should follow... without any exceptions or excuses....

...lest you will be prone to be sinners, supplementing your erstewhile problems and undue accumulation of Karmas... causing repeated Re-births."

Thus as Temple deities... He conveys a different message and approach for exemplary Life for His devotees...

... by OPENLY SHOWING Him as God ONLY... and NOT A MAN.!

Then why the need for Guru for God.?

When Ramanuja intervened in the Saiva-Vaishnava dispute at Thirumalai... he clearly and openly prayed to Lord Venkateswara...

..."Hae Venkatakrishna, I understand very well that you are the Krishna here... and Not Siva..

...even though not exhibiting your Divya-Ayudhas Sanku and Chakra.

And such a concept is not new to us... since there are already several Vishnu Temples where the Deity Vishnu is not exhibiting Sanku and Chakra...

..for example, Udupi, Poori, Dwaraka etc.

Contrarily here... at Thirumalai, since you are showing us a MIXED CULTURE of Siva plus Vishnu...

...we want to clearly IDENTIFY you and recite prayers as well as worship accordingly, with well-defined demarcation...

So please let us know... whether you want us to pray as Sankara-Narayarana or Viswaroopa-Krishna as you showed yourselves to Arjuna as the Unified form of all Vedic Gods within one Vishnu the Supreme Lord.

If You are Sankara Narayana... then we will hand over this Temple to Saivites...

...similar to all the other Sankara-Narayana temples in the Saivites custody and Pooja conducts....

..in which case your PRE-DOMINANT Divya-ayudhas have to be the Lord Sivas... i.e Deer and Mazhu....

Alternatively if you want to show yourselves as PREDOMINANT VISHNU in the Viswaroopa Krishna form here... then please accept the Sanku and Chakra...

...and show to your devotees as the constant and eternal proof of authenticity... giving the least room for even a trace of doubt nor complication ever in future.

So we all your devotees of both the sects as Saivites and Vaishnavites are placing before you... both these pairs of Options... leaving to your discretion.

Please express in action by showing openly to all the devotees... not only the present... but also the posterity....

..since we do not want to have such disputes from any circles in future too."

Thus Ramanujacharya openly and impartially spoke out... in the presence of the Saivites as well as the Thondai-mandala Raja, under whose Kingdom Thirumalai was a part. in those days....

...and left out the Sannidhi. The Door was locked and sealed. There were Three sets of Gatemen judiciously from Vaishnavites, Saivites and the Kings Guards... safeguarding the Sannidhi- Gate during the following night.

While the Sannidhi door was opened in the subsequent morning... in the presence of the King along with the Gurus from both the Saivites and Vaishnavites...

..they all were UNDISPUTABLY convinced that it is Lord Venkata-Krishna... since he had chosen Sanka and Chakra...

...leaving off the Siva's Divya-ayudhas before Him lying UNTOUCHED.

Further a New development.!... To their surprise... they all found Venkateswara's face adorned with an unusual form of Thirumanh-Kappu... Adiyars' Paada-Chinna Namam...

...so called Tamil Letter "PA" shaped.!

Then Ramanujacharya asked Venkateswara to speak out and clarify openly to all... as to what does it indicate.

Then by Asareeri voice... Venkateswara declared openly "Oh Ramanuja, my Acharya I am your Student you are my Guru and Acharya...

..Guru because you have taught and enlightened me as to what is the best form undisputable expostion during Kaliyuga... by clearly wearing the Diya-Ayudhas.

Besides, for one more reason too, I honour you as my Guru..

...because what I could not achieve by Ten Awatharas... You could achieve easily just within 40 years...especially during the sinful Kaliyuga..

You are my Acharya because you have peformed Samasrayanam to me by giving me Sanka and Chakra...

...and further to confirm my principle of Krishnawathara... I am the Serviceman of my Devotees.. So I wear on my forehead, my Devotees' Foot-prints."

Accordingly from that date onwards in the Kattiyam for Ramanujacharya during processions...

....it is announced as "Thirumalai-Appanukku Sanku-Aazhi alhiththa Acharya-perumaan Emberumaanaar Jaya Vijayee bhava."

While Ramanuja the Seshawathara fulfilled his purpose of incarnation upto the satisfaction of his Master, Narayana...

...Adisesha's second Awathara, Manavala-Mamuni further fortified and firm-rooted the Devotion cult amongst the people widely by simplifying through Tamil...

..duly highlighting the greatness of Thamizh-Marhai Thiruvaaymozhi...

So Ranganatha once again honoured the second Seshawathara, Manavalai mamuni... by openly declaring that He regards Manavala-mamuni as His present Acharya-Guru.

...by praying him as... Yatheendra-pravanam Vandhae Ramya Jaamathrum Munim.
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