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My very purpose of Starting this Thread is proved by the Language of Bismala’s posting of un said things using unwanted Caste remarks and nature of the Link from FLoraipuyal and IRAAMAKI’s interpretation is completely false-
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Tholkappiyar has framed Rules of Tamil, They include for

TholKappiyar has given us rules for Tamil words, that include ச - சை – சௌ and ய, ஞ can not be a word start. Tamil. Friends Tholkaapiyar formed Tamil Lettering Arrangement Grammer especially following Sanskrit Pattern as Caldwell showed and his Verses very clearly confirms that.

Every Language keeps changing over time, on influence from Other Languages and that Nannul reduced the exemptions given by Tholkappiyar. But basing 13th Cen. Nannul and 20th Cen, Lexicon to misinterpret Tholkappiyar is of course Pavanar and Thani-Tamil Movement Scholar’s way. These can be proved by Historical Linguistics.

Brahmi Scripts are made for Sanskrit and not for Prakrit is confirmed by Linguists who knows these Languages and Thokkappiyam confirms it (Details shortly). Now coming to sa – We can take Tirukural dated to 250-300 CE, just 200 years later than Tholkaapiyam(50-100CE) we See Kurals with Words starting with க-77, த-35, -43, ப -62, ம-60, வ- 20 ய -nil and that ச is just 3 and One word is repeated twice, so only two words starting with ச words in Kural and both the words are of Sanskrit Origin as demarcated by Many Tamil Scholars.
On saying this is of Tamil and that is Sanskrit, I request friends- Further to Burrows Lexicon claiming many Indo-European words as Dravidian, the research by otherside proved :

The Dravidian Etymological Dictionary of Burrow and Emeneau contains over 5,000 etyma and it has been shown that over 4,000 of these etyma have Indo-Aryan, Munda cognates (cf. http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/Indian_Lexicon which contains over 8,000 semantic clusters.)


I shall put as Bilingualgai said on quoting interesting section from Sangam than on the Unity of Indic Culture that exists for more than 5000 years. But the posts and links only prove that my original thinking is right.

To make matters straight I WELCOME Intercaste marriages and all becoming as Vegetarians as VALLUVAR Said.

My request to everybody is to use this Thread with what you liked from Sangam Literaure with verses please, and I start agains with Tamil Marriages

Now On Old Tamil Marriages-
Now Let us Understand Velvi:

Nan Pala Kelvi Murriya Velvi Anthanarukku - Puram 361.

Anthi Anthanar Arunkaden Irukkum
Muththie Vilakirru Injum Puram -2

Now Velvi and Marai are always One Every where for the world, and We have to now Clearly Live by Concluded Datings of the Literature- Sangam to Kural to Silaptahikaram- 200BCE to 200 CE,
and Tholkappiyam very clearly 50CE TO 100CE, any thing beyond this are mere Speculations.

Now In Silapathikaram on Kannagi Wedding:

Malai Thal Chenni Vairamani Thoonagathu
NilaVithanathu NithilapPum Panthar Kil
Vanur Mathiyan sgadanaya Vanthu
Chali orumean thakaiyalai Kovalan
MAMUTHU PARPPAN MARAIVAZHI KATITA
Thii Valandh Seithu..... and again


we see the song continues :

Vilakinar Kalathinar Virintha Paligai
Mulaikuta Niraiyinar
Friends Detailed Marriage function is mentioned and most of what is mentioned is followed even today By Orthodax Tamils even today.

Now Let us TholKappiyam We See PolyGamy is Openly Practised by Society-
PinMurai akkiya PerumPorul Vathuvai
Thonmurai Manaivi Ethirpadayinum - Karpiyal 31

Kamak Kilathi Manaiol Enrivar
Emuru Kilavi Solliye ethirum and

In every House Girls are grown for additional Wifes(?)

KadarParathai Ellarkum Vurithe So POLYGAMY was certainly Present.

SATHI was also Prevalent, Mentioned in PuraNanuru247 - Wife of Puthapandian Jumping in to fire is mentioned.

Tholkappiyam is Clear on Castelism:

MELOR Moovarkum Punarntha Karanam
Kilorku Akiya Kalamum VUnde Karpi3

Pirape Kudimai Anmai Andodu..... Thol. Mei -25

and on Love Marriages:

Kamak Koottam Kanum Kalai
MARAIOR TheEthu Mandral Ettanul
Thuraiamai Nal Yal Thunaimayor iyalbe- Kalbi 1
Here when Lovers meet and mind meets they Unite, and THOLKAPPIYAR says Like- Maraiyor- i.e., In Vedas Kandarva Manam is allowed, like this it is.

Now further when this Lovers meet and Mental Marrages, cheating happened, then came -

Poiyum Valuvum Thondriya Pinnar
IYER Yathanar KARANAM enba- Karp -4,

Marraiges became a big function and Iyers- Brahmins doing Velvi, and with God's Presence this functions were conducted.

So This is what is Tamil Marriages about.

DEVAPRIYA.