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**Slonopotam845** · 04-27-2006, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by srivatsan Mr. r_kk, don't you that the Moon's pull is 0.0027N/ 80kg person before reading the link that you have provided.? And do you want some one to explain you that Gravitational Force is a "long range, Weak force" and Nuclear Force is "Very Short Range, very Strong Force"? And do you also want someone to tell you that wave pattern in the ocean changes according to the postion of Moon...?

If your concept of science is something, which is documented in eithehr Greek Or German or English language, being authored by a white Skinned, European or American, then I am not for any discussion or argument with you........

Please come to the point and reply to the simple question instead of asking what kind of science I believe or you believe, why I can't get answer to these simple questions etc etc. How do you correlate the celestial positions of planets and mythical object/phenomenon to day to day life of all creatures and non-life forms? Don't convert this discussion to individual level (what I believe or whether I make hasty conclusion just like that or not etc). Your statement on earthquake remembers me an astrologer who made big claims in other thread! Please come to the point. Tell me whether you have any kind of statistics or valid repeatable proofs to claim astrology as science. I had requested many people for so many years and failed to get any such proofs. In micellenous section here also, I requested a famous professional astrologer to give some proof long time back, but till now I haven't get any reply.
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...r=asc&start=27. If you can declare “Jyothitam as science” in the title of thread without any valid proofs, I also have the equal rights to start my comment as “pseudo science” Hey r_kk, I guess I understand your question. Astrology is not a cause and effect science. No, the planets have nothing to do with a person's life. It is the position of the planets, based on which we say something is going to happen to a specific person. It doesnt deal with any gravity or any other physical properties of any heavenly bodies.
This is very similar to curve fitting on real space. We have the relative positions of some bodies, which we take for reference. In fact we can choose any of those bodies, including the position of r_kk, but, in general, it is easier to predict the positions of some bodies like the planets and some stars, since we have observed their behavior and know their paths. I cannot have r_kk as a reference point since r_kk's motion is random to me, but moon follows a constant path and I can predict its position with reference to any location on earth at any given time.
You are trying to mix astrology with some popular western beliefs such as people turning lunatics or werewolves on a full moon day.

Never did we say that because moon is at a point the whole mass will go crazy. Astrology needs a lot of careful calculations and data before we can predict something.
Again, astrology is a science, in which we predict the position/behavior of something based on the relative position/behavior of certain heavenly bodies, that are easy for us to track.

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Slonopotam845 Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 5,251 Senior Member	Originally Posted by srivatsan Mr. r_kk, don't you that the Moon's pull is 0.0027N/ 80kg person before reading the link that you have provided.? And do you want some one to explain you that Gravitational Force is a "long range, Weak force" and Nuclear Force is "Very Short Range, very Strong Force"? And do you also want someone to tell you that wave pattern in the ocean changes according to the postion of Moon...? If your concept of science is something, which is documented in eithehr Greek Or German or English language, being authored by a white Skinned, European or American, then I am not for any discussion or argument with you........ Please come to the point and reply to the simple question instead of asking what kind of science I believe or you believe, why I can't get answer to these simple questions etc etc. How do you correlate the celestial positions of planets and mythical object/phenomenon to day to day life of all creatures and non-life forms? Don't convert this discussion to individual level (what I believe or whether I make hasty conclusion just like that or not etc). Your statement on earthquake remembers me an astrologer who made big claims in other thread! Please come to the point. Tell me whether you have any kind of statistics or valid repeatable proofs to claim astrology as science. I had requested many people for so many years and failed to get any such proofs. In micellenous section here also, I requested a famous professional astrologer to give some proof long time back, but till now I haven't get any reply. http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...r=asc&start=27. If you can declare “Jyothitam as science” in the title of thread without any valid proofs, I also have the equal rights to start my comment as “pseudo science” Hey r_kk, I guess I understand your question. Astrology is not a cause and effect science. No, the planets have nothing to do with a person's life. It is the position of the planets, based on which we say something is going to happen to a specific person. It doesnt deal with any gravity or any other physical properties of any heavenly bodies. This is very similar to curve fitting on real space. We have the relative positions of some bodies, which we take for reference. In fact we can choose any of those bodies, including the position of r_kk, but, in general, it is easier to predict the positions of some bodies like the planets and some stars, since we have observed their behavior and know their paths. I cannot have r_kk as a reference point since r_kk's motion is random to me, but moon follows a constant path and I can predict its position with reference to any location on earth at any given time. You are trying to mix astrology with some popular western beliefs such as people turning lunatics or werewolves on a full moon day. Never did we say that because moon is at a point the whole mass will go crazy. Astrology needs a lot of careful calculations and data before we can predict something. Again, astrology is a science, in which we predict the position/behavior of something based on the relative position/behavior of certain heavenly bodies, that are easy for us to track.
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