[Lillie_Steins]

Dear pirayaani,

1. >

2.This is totally incorrect. The "great northern mountains" are the
tirumalai hills which have for aeons been accepted as the borders of
Tamilakam. To try and represent them as the Himalayas (which are
always mentioned by name as "amaiya" in the sangam texts) either
displays utter ignorance or is deliberate falsification.


No.1 fits for prehistoric period.

No.2 fits for sankam period.

'Ariyar' reference was not only for north. It was there in karikal chola period.

Karikal chola had four armies namely Ariyappadai , Manappadai, puduppadai and Pampappadai. Ariyam here specifies the 'first '.

'Atruppadai' literature tells this. 'Ariyapapadai kadantha Neduncheliyan' in sankam literature doesn't mean north ariyan but cholan army.

'Ayya, Ayira' roots formed ariya in paly language to specify hothas first and kings later.

Ayya - ariya - 'Araiyar' - Arasar was the tamil formation.

What Mr. Solomon quoted from Ambetkar's words is the correct interpretation of Aryans.

Daerius a king in Persia called himself as 'Ariyan' in the sense of Topper / king.

There was no Aryan race either in north or in South.

Periyar used 'Dravidia' word for cultural difference and not for race difference since it is specified in MahaBharata.

Orissa (old Kalinga) Poori Ranganathar temple has inscriptions about chola kings as dravida kings who were tamils.

Rai cholas were called Dravida kings who were tamils.

f.s.gandhi