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**Ifroham4** · 08-01-2012, 10:33 AM

With his look and income, no trouble finding a mistress outside if his Jap wife is unable to satisfy his need. To screw his student is the most stupid thing one can do.

This type of dumb ass needs no fixing. He is more than capable of self imploding.

Like I said, it is for the prosecution to prove ALL the elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. This means to prove:

(a) he had sex with the girl; AND

(b) there was bargain that he would give her good grades in return for the pleasure she had given him.

If they fail to prove ALL of the above, he is innocent of the crime for which he is charged PERIOD.

The fact that a member of the public can jump to the conclusion that "this type of dumb ass needs no fixing, he is more than capable of self imploding" just proves my point that conviction is the means to an end and not an end in itself. If you control the media, you can shape public perceptions simply through biased reporting of the fact that he was charged. Through this you achieve your objective, discredit your target, without the need to get a conviction. This is what is called "trial by media" and a fair justice system has rules (contempt of court, gag orders, etc) to prevent that. We have those rules in SG. Why were these rules not invoked here? Who leaked the details of the gifts, photos, etc to the mainstream media? Why does the mainstream media dutifully disclose such material without questioning whether or not they could be charged for contempt of court by doing acts that would "prejudice a fair trial"? In the Westminster model, the only institution that has the right to conduct a trial of the accused is the Court (aided by the prosecution and the defence) and NOT the media.

In developed countries, prosecution when queried by the press will inevitably say something like this "the case is now before the courts and I am not allowed to disclose anything further because the matter is now sub-judice (before the courts)". "Sub-judice" sounds familiar? Pinky Loon said the issue of Hougang by-election is now sub-judice, he can't talk more about it, even to Parliament because that would be seen to be interfering with the work of the Courts. So, why the double standards?

In France, the press is not even allowed to print photos of an accused being hand-cuffed and led away, because that would cause "trial by media" and unjustly affect a person's reputation. The accused can be acquitted later, but the picture will stick in the minds of the unthinking plebians. Dominique Strauss Kahn was shown hand-cuffed by the US media and it caused an uproar in France, the country credited with starting the European age of ENLIGHTENMENT. It seems a signficant portion of the SINKIE public is still living in the dark ages.

So, the moral of the story is, do not be too quick to judge, especially if the news source is the mainstream media in SG and always remember, a man or woman is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY and it is for the prosecution to prove ALL of the elements of the crime BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.

An enlightened electorate, capable of critical thinking, is one of the essential ingredients in a dish called democracy. Without such an electorate, the mission is hopeless, no matter what sort of institutions you have, because they can be easily bypassed through clever manipulation of the simple minds of the plebians.

With this Your Honour, I rest my case ...

08-01-2012, 10:33 AM	#37
Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	With his look and income, no trouble finding a mistress outside if his Jap wife is unable to satisfy his need. To screw his student is the most stupid thing one can do. This type of dumb ass needs no fixing. He is more than capable of self imploding. Like I said, it is for the prosecution to prove ALL the elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. This means to prove: (a) he had sex with the girl; AND (b) there was bargain that he would give her good grades in return for the pleasure she had given him. If they fail to prove ALL of the above, he is innocent of the crime for which he is charged PERIOD. The fact that a member of the public can jump to the conclusion that "this type of dumb ass needs no fixing, he is more than capable of self imploding" just proves my point that conviction is the means to an end and not an end in itself. If you control the media, you can shape public perceptions simply through biased reporting of the fact that he was charged. Through this you achieve your objective, discredit your target, without the need to get a conviction. This is what is called "trial by media" and a fair justice system has rules (contempt of court, gag orders, etc) to prevent that. We have those rules in SG. Why were these rules not invoked here? Who leaked the details of the gifts, photos, etc to the mainstream media? Why does the mainstream media dutifully disclose such material without questioning whether or not they could be charged for contempt of court by doing acts that would "prejudice a fair trial"? In the Westminster model, the only institution that has the right to conduct a trial of the accused is the Court (aided by the prosecution and the defence) and NOT the media. In developed countries, prosecution when queried by the press will inevitably say something like this "the case is now before the courts and I am not allowed to disclose anything further because the matter is now sub-judice (before the courts)". "Sub-judice" sounds familiar? Pinky Loon said the issue of Hougang by-election is now sub-judice, he can't talk more about it, even to Parliament because that would be seen to be interfering with the work of the Courts. So, why the double standards? In France, the press is not even allowed to print photos of an accused being hand-cuffed and led away, because that would cause "trial by media" and unjustly affect a person's reputation. The accused can be acquitted later, but the picture will stick in the minds of the unthinking plebians. Dominique Strauss Kahn was shown hand-cuffed by the US media and it caused an uproar in France, the country credited with starting the European age of ENLIGHTENMENT. It seems a signficant portion of the SINKIE public is still living in the dark ages. So, the moral of the story is, do not be too quick to judge, especially if the news source is the mainstream media in SG and always remember, a man or woman is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY and it is for the prosecution to prove ALL of the elements of the crime BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. An enlightened electorate, capable of critical thinking, is one of the essential ingredients in a dish called democracy. Without such an electorate, the mission is hopeless, no matter what sort of institutions you have, because they can be easily bypassed through clever manipulation of the simple minds of the plebians. With this Your Honour, I rest my case ...
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