This is not the right forum to discuss this issue. For your own research, try reading Stillhaventfound.org blog. http://www.stillhaventfound.org/cate...eation-church/ He is pro NCC but does give a balance perspective. I am not from NCC. I do not agree with many things that were thought but I have also seen a lot of good things happened in people's life. So I will reserve my comments.