[Raj_Copi_Jin]

I will say this again, that old man cannot win me in anything, and yes, as a pastor he failed. now i want to ask your permission to talk to your pastors. i am not bringing with me an army. i am going there with pen and paper and a bible i had since young.

Questions include: 1.God's concept of free will. 2. Various contradictions in the bible. 3. Non-relation to physical history 4. the controversial book of job (alot of pastors got trouble with this.) All pretty standard. My dad lost, tried explaining but failed. YES MY DAD FAILED IN BEING A PASTOR. NOT WORTH A SALT. ETC ETC Lets get down to business.

Okay. So when can i go to your church? Nothing to fear. Just tell me where your church is and your pastor. dont have to sit behind that computer of yours and mock.

So when?

Oh and you havent argue to my rebuttals yet.

Fruiti,

So sad....the son is greater than the father! OK....that's your family problem.

Get down to business....what business you got with me....and my church, and my pastor!

Please, there are tons of these materials in the internet from very relaible source.....and sorry....you have to distinguish between church and seminaries. The rightful place for you to discuss those questions is not the church but in seminaries....enrole yourself in a seminary and debate, if you will with the lecturers there......ask your failed pastor-father....what are the roles of pastors and he is going to tell you they are not the right people for you to talk to on those topics.

Of course there is nothing for us to fear....what to fear?

By the way, can you let me know which church your father pastored before and better still, his name and the name of the current pastor....nothing to fear....we want to know more about his situation....