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**Paul Bunyan** · 03-30-2008, 11:07 AM

Many of these so called 'peaceful, law abiding' Muslims seem to be seeking other ways to supplant western customs for their own devious means.

So there should be a set of laws for non-Muslims and another set for Muslims? Muslims shouldn't be allowed to function within Western legal systems? Just what are you getting at?

In the end IMHO there will be no compromise between Western customs and those that will be defined as 'Islamic' (e.g. freedom of speech). Freedom of speech isn't just about making movies about how bad Muslims are or cartoons about Muhammad. Freedom of speech is in the Constitution to allow people to criticize government. Without freedom of speech, we are like China. It's your right and your freedom of speech to lobby to change immigration laws. But you can't change the law to unfairly target a group based on their religion, unless you don't think the Constitution is valid, in which case IMO you are a greater danger to this country than Muslims.

When you add the violent acting Muslims together with the radically minded Muslims, the numbers cease to be a true minority. That's actually false.

The radically minded will still give appearances as being peaceful and moderate as they work towards the goal of total dominance over the non-Muslim world. This victory will be obtained by blood, deceit, and using a free society's own laws to undermine that host country. Wow! You sound just like something out of Mein Kampf! "They plot and they scheme and they deceive, etc." That's an unfair blanket statement. We are at war with radical Islam. There are some traitors in our midst. But we don't need Japanese interment camps to remain secure.

Its purpose can only be seen by those that have had the privilege of growing up in a free society as another attempt at global slavery. The drug of empire building is very addictive, but not always redeeming. Hence when the problem of the US and Western societies are held in check, then the world's Jew problem can be addressed once and for all by the Islamic masters. Oh pullease!

The end remains the same even if the in vogue story line keeps changing. Israel and all Jews in general will always be a thorn in the side of Islam. Islam's general attitude towards Israel and Jews in general at this juncture in time is not too flattering. This reflects an attitude that receives its inspiration straight from the pit!!! Now for Islam et al., it's on to world conquest. Why do we have to define ourselves that way? I don't want to be a thorn in your side, do you feel a requirement to be a thorn in mine. It's fair that you ask me to defend against anti-semitism, but I don't feel that I must apostate to do so.

03-30-2008, 11:07 AM	#6
Paul Bunyan Join Date Jul 2007 Age 58 Posts 4,495 Senior Member	Many of these so called 'peaceful, law abiding' Muslims seem to be seeking other ways to supplant western customs for their own devious means. So there should be a set of laws for non-Muslims and another set for Muslims? Muslims shouldn't be allowed to function within Western legal systems? Just what are you getting at? In the end IMHO there will be no compromise between Western customs and those that will be defined as 'Islamic' (e.g. freedom of speech). Freedom of speech isn't just about making movies about how bad Muslims are or cartoons about Muhammad. Freedom of speech is in the Constitution to allow people to criticize government. Without freedom of speech, we are like China. It's your right and your freedom of speech to lobby to change immigration laws. But you can't change the law to unfairly target a group based on their religion, unless you don't think the Constitution is valid, in which case IMO you are a greater danger to this country than Muslims. When you add the violent acting Muslims together with the radically minded Muslims, the numbers cease to be a true minority. That's actually false. The radically minded will still give appearances as being peaceful and moderate as they work towards the goal of total dominance over the non-Muslim world. This victory will be obtained by blood, deceit, and using a free society's own laws to undermine that host country. Wow! You sound just like something out of Mein Kampf! "They plot and they scheme and they deceive, etc." That's an unfair blanket statement. We are at war with radical Islam. There are some traitors in our midst. But we don't need Japanese interment camps to remain secure. Its purpose can only be seen by those that have had the privilege of growing up in a free society as another attempt at global slavery. The drug of empire building is very addictive, but not always redeeming. Hence when the problem of the US and Western societies are held in check, then the world's Jew problem can be addressed once and for all by the Islamic masters. Oh pullease! The end remains the same even if the in vogue story line keeps changing. Israel and all Jews in general will always be a thorn in the side of Islam. Islam's general attitude towards Israel and Jews in general at this juncture in time is not too flattering. This reflects an attitude that receives its inspiration straight from the pit!!! Now for Islam et al., it's on to world conquest. Why do we have to define ourselves that way? I don't want to be a thorn in your side, do you feel a requirement to be a thorn in mine. It's fair that you ask me to defend against anti-semitism, but I don't feel that I must apostate to do so.
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