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**softy54534** · 02-14-2011, 08:47 AM

That's what I am talking about - even the semantics are too precious for the left-leaning. But no, curlyg, a country cannot be multicultural and remain democratic with integrated communities.

Why not? Jews are effectively semi-autonomous across the world in terms of having an independent religious leadership, independent education systems, Jewish political organisations and secular Jewish institutions, preservation of Hebrew language and so on. If integration and multiculturalism are impossible, neither you nor I can coherently be called "Australian Jews."

By the way, another issue of multiculturalism is that in accordance with the socialist principles it removes personal responsibility from the person. It absolves the rapists and other thugs declaring them "victims" rather than perpetrators. Well, that's their culture...It is applied selectively of course - no leniency is granted if you are from mainstream culture, you have to fit the "disadvantaged minority" criteria. It's all intertwined, you can't just pick and chose: I want affirmative action but I don't want multiculturalism... Unfotunately the world has gone way too far down this road, the way back may be much harder than we think. Definitely in Europe. Are you referring to "cultural defenses"? In Australia the situation is quite good so far as these go. But I think you're overstating your point. There aren't many people who would be willing to come out in support of honor killings on the basis of cultural respect or whatever.

02-14-2011, 08:47 AM	#9
softy54534 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,457 Senior Member	That's what I am talking about - even the semantics are too precious for the left-leaning. But no, curlyg, a country cannot be multicultural and remain democratic with integrated communities. Why not? Jews are effectively semi-autonomous across the world in terms of having an independent religious leadership, independent education systems, Jewish political organisations and secular Jewish institutions, preservation of Hebrew language and so on. If integration and multiculturalism are impossible, neither you nor I can coherently be called "Australian Jews." By the way, another issue of multiculturalism is that in accordance with the socialist principles it removes personal responsibility from the person. It absolves the rapists and other thugs declaring them "victims" rather than perpetrators. Well, that's their culture...It is applied selectively of course - no leniency is granted if you are from mainstream culture, you have to fit the "disadvantaged minority" criteria. It's all intertwined, you can't just pick and chose: I want affirmative action but I don't want multiculturalism... Unfotunately the world has gone way too far down this road, the way back may be much harder than we think. Definitely in Europe. Are you referring to "cultural defenses"? In Australia the situation is quite good so far as these go. But I think you're overstating your point. There aren't many people who would be willing to come out in support of honor killings on the basis of cultural respect or whatever.
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