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**S.T.D.** · 01-26-2010, 06:07 AM

You guys are missing the point. Here's the issue at hand: the Palestinians & PA, led by the "moderate" Abbas are funding and inciting against Israel. Shouldn't Israel do the same? Why can't someone like Dan Gillerman get an interview with Charlie Rose and enlighten people? Why can't he explain how Mahmoud Abbas did his thesis on denying the Holocaust? Maybe he can show a clip where, in Arabic of course, Mahmoud Abbas is naming streets after Suicide bombers.

It is so the time for Israel to go on the offensive.

I remember during the 2006 Lebanon war they had that female PR person ( i think her name was Miri Eisen?), who was just horrible, and she was apologizing for everything that was happening during the war, instead of saying "hey, it wasn't us that fired rockets into the other country and kidnapped and killed people." She was just on the defensive and sounded extremely pathetic. This is a losing strategy. For example, you never hear Hilary Clinton apologizing about innocents being killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. Never.

I felt a similar way when Bibi was waving around the Aushwitz blueprints at the UN a few months ago. The rest of his speech was good though ,so I forgive him.

Also, I saw Michael Oren on Fareed Zakaria. Zakaria politely attacked Oren using all the Palestinian talking points. Maybe Abbas faxed him a memo beforehand. In any case, Oren is a brilliant man and he didn't say one thing the Palestinians were doing wrong. Maybe he said something about Hamas, but that's it. All he was doing was defending ISrael the entire hour. He was only on the defensive, and I was pretty disappointed with how this brilliant man came off, even though he was only following orders from above...

I also think Israeli leaders need to tone down their Holocaust talk. Why can't they just explain who the enemy is now w/o reminding the whole world about the Holocaust? Do they think most of the world cares about the Holocaust anyway? Europeans don't even care, what makes them think Africans, CHinese, etc, care?

***I think I'm going to respost this in the main forum

01-26-2010, 06:07 AM	#4
S.T.D. Join Date May 2008 Age 42 Posts 5,220 Senior Member	You guys are missing the point. Here's the issue at hand: the Palestinians & PA, led by the "moderate" Abbas are funding and inciting against Israel. Shouldn't Israel do the same? Why can't someone like Dan Gillerman get an interview with Charlie Rose and enlighten people? Why can't he explain how Mahmoud Abbas did his thesis on denying the Holocaust? Maybe he can show a clip where, in Arabic of course, Mahmoud Abbas is naming streets after Suicide bombers. It is so the time for Israel to go on the offensive. I remember during the 2006 Lebanon war they had that female PR person ( i think her name was Miri Eisen?), who was just horrible, and she was apologizing for everything that was happening during the war, instead of saying "hey, it wasn't us that fired rockets into the other country and kidnapped and killed people." She was just on the defensive and sounded extremely pathetic. This is a losing strategy. For example, you never hear Hilary Clinton apologizing about innocents being killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. Never. I felt a similar way when Bibi was waving around the Aushwitz blueprints at the UN a few months ago. The rest of his speech was good though ,so I forgive him. Also, I saw Michael Oren on Fareed Zakaria. Zakaria politely attacked Oren using all the Palestinian talking points. Maybe Abbas faxed him a memo beforehand. In any case, Oren is a brilliant man and he didn't say one thing the Palestinians were doing wrong. Maybe he said something about Hamas, but that's it. All he was doing was defending ISrael the entire hour. He was only on the defensive, and I was pretty disappointed with how this brilliant man came off, even though he was only following orders from above... I also think Israeli leaders need to tone down their Holocaust talk. Why can't they just explain who the enemy is now w/o reminding the whole world about the Holocaust? Do they think most of the world cares about the Holocaust anyway? Europeans don't even care, what makes them think Africans, CHinese, etc, care? ***I think I'm going to respost this in the main forum
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