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**Fegasderty** · 01-26-2010, 02:16 PM

Yes, that helps as well. Ditto if Fatah does the same thing.

But let's not pretend that Israel's presence in the West Bank doesn't affect Palestinians, as far as I'm concerned, it is a necessary evil.

You can flip that 180 degrees.

The constant threat of genocide, numerous attempts toward that end in fact. Numerous mass killing via terrorism, and attempted terrorism. Overwhelming persecution of Jews (including mass ethnic cleansing) in the Middle East by Arabs (given most of the Israeli Jews are actually Mizrachi and Sephardi). To boot arabization and colonialization of historic Hebrew lands by Arab invaders under the auspices of theologically driven imperialism. And what do we see? Do we see rampant wife beating by Jews? Do we see honor killings? Do we see even Jewish NGO's or the Israeli govt fund studies that chalk up indigenous social problems to War, to threat of War? on to Arabs? Did we ever see that in fact? When Jews were immensely poorer in Hebron and Jerusalem than most Ottoman backed Arabs. In Yemen or Libya where Jews were little more than chattel slaves under the thumb of the local sheiks? Do we have historic revisionism in our community? Do we endemically excuse our mental illnesses on to the implacable enemy? What do we see? Where is even the remote equivalent? Where do we use those things on a political score card? (I'd actually encourage comparable studies... reciprocity is a b*tch)

Let me be frank here, the very first thing that is of difference between civilized people (read Jews) and uncivilized people (read Arabs) is that the former can and do deal with social stressors w/o relegating to bogeymen, whilst the latter look for anything at all to save face. Modern Civilization mandates ethics, face culture mandates death and a blame game of the empowered onto scapegoats.

01-26-2010, 02:16 PM	#10
Fegasderty Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 5,023 Senior Member	Yes, that helps as well. Ditto if Fatah does the same thing. But let's not pretend that Israel's presence in the West Bank doesn't affect Palestinians, as far as I'm concerned, it is a necessary evil. You can flip that 180 degrees. The constant threat of genocide, numerous attempts toward that end in fact. Numerous mass killing via terrorism, and attempted terrorism. Overwhelming persecution of Jews (including mass ethnic cleansing) in the Middle East by Arabs (given most of the Israeli Jews are actually Mizrachi and Sephardi). To boot arabization and colonialization of historic Hebrew lands by Arab invaders under the auspices of theologically driven imperialism. And what do we see? Do we see rampant wife beating by Jews? Do we see honor killings? Do we see even Jewish NGO's or the Israeli govt fund studies that chalk up indigenous social problems to War, to threat of War? on to Arabs? Did we ever see that in fact? When Jews were immensely poorer in Hebron and Jerusalem than most Ottoman backed Arabs. In Yemen or Libya where Jews were little more than chattel slaves under the thumb of the local sheiks? Do we have historic revisionism in our community? Do we endemically excuse our mental illnesses on to the implacable enemy? What do we see? Where is even the remote equivalent? Where do we use those things on a political score card? (I'd actually encourage comparable studies... reciprocity is a b*tch) Let me be frank here, the very first thing that is of difference between civilized people (read Jews) and uncivilized people (read Arabs) is that the former can and do deal with social stressors w/o relegating to bogeymen, whilst the latter look for anything at all to save face. Modern Civilization mandates ethics, face culture mandates death and a blame game of the empowered onto scapegoats.
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