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**forebirdo** · 07-22-2012, 11:13 AM

Isn't both needed...? Can be that after some time of gradual training, a sudden glimpse of deep understanding opens the door to awakening?

Yea but the point is without sila, samma samadhi is not possible, without samma samadhi, wisdom is not possible. That is the 8-fold path.

what is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding? Precisely this Noble Eightfold Path

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07-22-2012, 11:13 AM	#6
forebirdo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 584 Senior Member	Isn't both needed...? Can be that after some time of gradual training, a sudden glimpse of deep understanding opens the door to awakening? Yea but the point is without sila, samma samadhi is not possible, without samma samadhi, wisdom is not possible. That is the 8-fold path. what is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding? Precisely this Noble Eightfold Path http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....011.than.html
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