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**UpperMan** · 07-04-2012, 08:49 AM

Possibly. But is it certain the Buddha was referring to reincarnation or post mortem rebirth when discussing the notions of 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism' as wrong views? Or was Buddha referring to something else, such as 'self-view', when mentioning the notions of 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism' are wrong views?

Good question, either or both works for me.

Is there any evidence to show this was the Buddha's intention when discussing the notions of 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism'? :

You mean other than always talking about it in terms of Views rather than in terms of the metaphysical? In terms of avoiding extremes rather than having a specific fixed View?

When he says 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism' are wrong views I can see only two alternatives, a fixed View that is somewhere in the middle, or a View that is not fixed that avoids both extremes. If the former were the case then I’d expect to see a clear definition.

what things, specifically? what Buddha spoke about or what your guru spoke to you about?

What guru?

The thing(s) I was referring to is rebirth/reincarnation.

07-04-2012, 08:49 AM	#19
UpperMan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	Possibly. But is it certain the Buddha was referring to reincarnation or post mortem rebirth when discussing the notions of 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism' as wrong views? Or was Buddha referring to something else, such as 'self-view', when mentioning the notions of 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism' are wrong views? Good question, either or both works for me. Is there any evidence to show this was the Buddha's intention when discussing the notions of 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism'? : You mean other than always talking about it in terms of Views rather than in terms of the metaphysical? In terms of avoiding extremes rather than having a specific fixed View? When he says 'eternalism' and 'annhiliationism' are wrong views I can see only two alternatives, a fixed View that is somewhere in the middle, or a View that is not fixed that avoids both extremes. If the former were the case then I’d expect to see a clear definition. what things, specifically? what Buddha spoke about or what your guru spoke to you about? What guru? The thing(s) I was referring to is rebirth/reincarnation.
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