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**ordercigsnick** · 07-01-2012, 06:25 AM

Dear theseeking1,

Abhaya,
Please explain without energy how is there life?

I'm not saying life exists without energy. I am simply refuting the mistaken notion that energy is some kind of life-force persisting from body to body, from life to life. This is not supported by the Buddha's teachings.

A human requires energy to live, so does every other form of life.

This is obvious. I am not denying that. Your mistaken view on the nature of this energy, however, requires reconsideration. I hope by now you see that energy is not implicated in the Buddha's definition of rebirth.

I guess my wording doesn't convey my thought as well as I would like it to. Even the Buddha refered to past existences. I'm really not sure how to word what I want to say in another way.

The Buddha did not refer to past existences by claiming that a life-force like energy transmigrates after death. He referred to past existences as "previous dwellings" having nothing to do with God or energy transmigration.

I used the term god or diety as an example, there are non-Buddhists that visit this web site as well as Buddhists. You seem very hung up on this example. Sorry to have caused this hang up.

Not hung up at all. Just trying to make clear that the Buddha's teachings have no place for God in them. After all, the topic of this thread is "God and Buddhism."

If there is no consciousness that does migrate from existence to existence please explain Alayavijnana. Which does state that our Karma may follow us for countless kalpas before it ripens.

The Alayavijnana is specific only to certain schools of Buddhism, and is not universal to the Buddha's teachings. Also, it has nothing to do with God, the topic of this thread.

I guess the best word to use is mind. And our Karma does have an effect on future existences, if you believe in rebirth. The Buddha did point out that certain actions, Karma, will have an effect on the future existence and the realm in which this existence takes place.

With Metta

This again has nothing to do with God.

Abhaya

07-01-2012, 06:25 AM	#31
ordercigsnick Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 335 Senior Member	Dear theseeking1, Abhaya, Please explain without energy how is there life? I'm not saying life exists without energy. I am simply refuting the mistaken notion that energy is some kind of life-force persisting from body to body, from life to life. This is not supported by the Buddha's teachings. A human requires energy to live, so does every other form of life. This is obvious. I am not denying that. Your mistaken view on the nature of this energy, however, requires reconsideration. I hope by now you see that energy is not implicated in the Buddha's definition of rebirth. I guess my wording doesn't convey my thought as well as I would like it to. Even the Buddha refered to past existences. I'm really not sure how to word what I want to say in another way. The Buddha did not refer to past existences by claiming that a life-force like energy transmigrates after death. He referred to past existences as "previous dwellings" having nothing to do with God or energy transmigration. I used the term god or diety as an example, there are non-Buddhists that visit this web site as well as Buddhists. You seem very hung up on this example. Sorry to have caused this hang up. Not hung up at all. Just trying to make clear that the Buddha's teachings have no place for God in them. After all, the topic of this thread is "God and Buddhism." If there is no consciousness that does migrate from existence to existence please explain Alayavijnana. Which does state that our Karma may follow us for countless kalpas before it ripens. The Alayavijnana is specific only to certain schools of Buddhism, and is not universal to the Buddha's teachings. Also, it has nothing to do with God, the topic of this thread. I guess the best word to use is mind. And our Karma does have an effect on future existences, if you believe in rebirth. The Buddha did point out that certain actions, Karma, will have an effect on the future existence and the realm in which this existence takes place. With Metta This again has nothing to do with God. Abhaya
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