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**Pelefaifs** · 06-21-2012, 09:05 PM

Friends,
I am challenging some of my own ideas, and would like your feedback.

The Buddha says in the Pali Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta:

"Now this, monks, is the Noble Truth of dukkha: Birth is dukkha, aging is dukkha, death is dukkha; sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, & despair are dukkha; association with the unbeloved is dukkha; separation from the loved is dukkha; not getting what is wanted is dukkha. In short, the five clinging-aggregates are dukkha."

— SN 56.11

My continued impression is that this 'life' or this 'world' is simply dukkha (dissatisfying/formed from suffering). Is this your view or is there a better view or way to understand this?

Secondly, even if one were to end suffering (as per the 4 Noble Truths), this does not end dukkha for other beings, correct? They still go on to suffer? So the world is still dukkha even for those in Nibbana.

Metta

06-21-2012, 09:05 PM	#1
Pelefaifs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	Is this world fundamentally Dukkha? Friends, I am challenging some of my own ideas, and would like your feedback. The Buddha says in the Pali Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta: "Now this, monks, is the Noble Truth of dukkha: Birth is dukkha, aging is dukkha, death is dukkha; sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, & despair are dukkha; association with the unbeloved is dukkha; separation from the loved is dukkha; not getting what is wanted is dukkha. In short, the five clinging-aggregates are dukkha." — SN 56.11 My continued impression is that this 'life' or this 'world' is simply dukkha (dissatisfying/formed from suffering). Is this your view or is there a better view or way to understand this? Secondly, even if one were to end suffering (as per the 4 Noble Truths), this does not end dukkha for other beings, correct? They still go on to suffer? So the world is still dukkha even for those in Nibbana. Metta
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