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**rikdpola** · 06-22-2012, 06:37 PM

Not the physical world but the phenomenal world perceived through the six sense doors. If you are truly satisfied then you are wise, actually most probably enlightened. However if you have never observed the pervasive nature of Dukkha and learned to be free from it by facing up to it and understanding it then I'd say that was ignorance in action.

So we both agree that wisdom is statisfaction. Then why to observe "unsatisfactoriness" in the world? Why not to start observing satisfactoriness instead? Why to empower our fault-finding mind by seeking to find more faults?

If unsatisfactoriness is the problem, then logically the solution is to start being satisfied now. To look for beauty (Nibbana) instead of looking for Dukkha,

Well I don't really understand why you'd want to be a Buddhist, you'd need to throw out the four noble truths for a start. If you have no inkling of wanting things you can't have or having things you don't want and then tension they create then I don't really understand why you'd want to be discussing Buddhism on the Internet. Being here on this forum is one of many dialy activities i do during the day. It is a part of the beaty of life, talking to intellegent and open minded people is a nice thing to do, why should not I?

In addition, i think Buddhism is the only religion where you can hardly find two people who agree on everything, which makes it beautiful in my opinion. Being the devil advocate should not offend anyone but it might enrich the discussion and enhance our understanding especially if we dont take things personal.

We observe it subjectively in our own experience, see the signals of of the same kind of thing being experienced by others, and through that can infer how pervasive it is. So perceiving and infering are both subjective? then calling it a "mark of exisitance" can be seen as a misleading assertion.

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rikdpola Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 568 Senior Member	Not the physical world but the phenomenal world perceived through the six sense doors. If you are truly satisfied then you are wise, actually most probably enlightened. However if you have never observed the pervasive nature of Dukkha and learned to be free from it by facing up to it and understanding it then I'd say that was ignorance in action. So we both agree that wisdom is statisfaction. Then why to observe "unsatisfactoriness" in the world? Why not to start observing satisfactoriness instead? Why to empower our fault-finding mind by seeking to find more faults? If unsatisfactoriness is the problem, then logically the solution is to start being satisfied now. To look for beauty (Nibbana) instead of looking for Dukkha, Well I don't really understand why you'd want to be a Buddhist, you'd need to throw out the four noble truths for a start. If you have no inkling of wanting things you can't have or having things you don't want and then tension they create then I don't really understand why you'd want to be discussing Buddhism on the Internet. Being here on this forum is one of many dialy activities i do during the day. It is a part of the beaty of life, talking to intellegent and open minded people is a nice thing to do, why should not I? In addition, i think Buddhism is the only religion where you can hardly find two people who agree on everything, which makes it beautiful in my opinion. Being the devil advocate should not offend anyone but it might enrich the discussion and enhance our understanding especially if we dont take things personal. We observe it subjectively in our own experience, see the signals of of the same kind of thing being experienced by others, and through that can infer how pervasive it is. So perceiving and infering are both subjective? then calling it a "mark of exisitance" can be seen as a misleading assertion.
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