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"I suppose the root of my questions is how do you know that your version of logic, science, psychology and 'deep looking' are the most efficacious when you are not aware of and neither have you applied the other alternatives?"

But I am more then aware of the many styles and traditions regarding Rebirth, though the rediculous ones I toss aside right away, like I did with things such as Mormonism and the cargo cult, at the time I had done all of my religious and spiritual inquiries. None make sense, except for that of Thich Nhat Hanh and the Pali Canon. And it isn't my version, it is the collective version of all scientists and Psychologists. Deep looking is looking at something from all angles to see the reality of said thing.

Literal Rebirth: Pointless. Has no substantial effect on you. I don't remember my past lives, so what did I learn? Where am I advancing to? I can become 99 percent a Buddha, and then be reborn into another body, and start right back from 0 percent? That doesn't make sense. The majority of people who remember past lives, remember those from their own background and ethnicity, a European will remember a European past life, an Asian will remember an Asian past life, what's up with that? And many traditions have many different ideas as to 'what' is reborn. What do you think is reborn?

I think we are reborn all the time, Thich Nhat Hanh taught me that, and Element showed me that by using the Pali Canon. We are reborn into thousands, probably millions, of different states of minds throughout our whole lifetime. The goal is to stop being reborn, by practicing Buddhism.

The early Buddhist texts make it clear that there is no permanent consciousness that moves from life to life. So if that is true, why even bother with it, unless you need to console yourself on the concept of death, of the you that is here and now, no longer existing.