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**Ferrotoral** · 06-01-2012, 04:51 AM

The first precept as taught by the Buddha was a call against killing. This should speak for itself.

The Five Precepts

1. Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
I undertake the precept to refrain from destroying living creatures.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...pancasila.html Killing others is a violation of the first precept and should be avoided at all costs. Although intention does factor into the act, killing is never completely blameless. The Buddha discouraged violence at every opportunity.

Dhammapada: Dandavagga (Violence)

129. All tremble at violence; all fear death. Putting oneself in the place of another, one should not kill nor cause another to kill.

130. All tremble at violence; life is dear to all. Putting oneself in the place of another, one should not kill nor cause another to kill.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit...p.10.budd.html Furthermore, the concept of a just war does not exist in the Buddha's earliest teachings. War, although a reality in this world, is not a path to be followed by those sincerely aspiring to be rid of dukkha. It is a reality of samsara, but samsara need not be indulged in by practitioners on the path of liberation from samsara.

Maha-dukkhakkhandha Sutta (MN 13)

"Again, it is with sensuality for the reason, sensuality for the source... that (men), taking swords & shields and buckling on bows & quivers, charge into battle massed in double array while arrows & spears are flying and swords are flashing; and there they are wounded by arrows & spears, and their heads are cut off by swords, so that they incur death or deadly pain. Now this drawback too in the case of sensuality, this mass of stress visible here & now, has sensuality for its reason, sensuality for its source, sensuality for its cause, the reason being simply sensuality.

"Again, it is with sensuality for the reason, sensuality for the source... that (men), taking swords & shields and buckling on bows & quivers, charge slippery bastions while arrows & spears are flying and swords are flashing; and there they are splashed with boiling cow dung and crushed under heavy weights, and their heads are cut off by swords, so that they incur death or deadly pain. Now this drawback too in the case of sensuality, this mass of stress visible here & now, has sensuality for its reason, sensuality for its source, sensuality for its cause, the reason being simply sensuality."

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....013.than.html In my personal practice, violence is never justified and killing is never something to be proud of, regardless of the intention or outcome.

06-01-2012, 04:51 AM	#12
Ferrotoral Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	The first precept as taught by the Buddha was a call against killing. This should speak for itself. The Five Precepts 1. Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami I undertake the precept to refrain from destroying living creatures. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...pancasila.html Killing others is a violation of the first precept and should be avoided at all costs. Although intention does factor into the act, killing is never completely blameless. The Buddha discouraged violence at every opportunity. Dhammapada: Dandavagga (Violence) 129. All tremble at violence; all fear death. Putting oneself in the place of another, one should not kill nor cause another to kill. 130. All tremble at violence; life is dear to all. Putting oneself in the place of another, one should not kill nor cause another to kill. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit...p.10.budd.html Furthermore, the concept of a just war does not exist in the Buddha's earliest teachings. War, although a reality in this world, is not a path to be followed by those sincerely aspiring to be rid of dukkha. It is a reality of samsara, but samsara need not be indulged in by practitioners on the path of liberation from samsara. Maha-dukkhakkhandha Sutta (MN 13) "Again, it is with sensuality for the reason, sensuality for the source... that (men), taking swords & shields and buckling on bows & quivers, charge into battle massed in double array while arrows & spears are flying and swords are flashing; and there they are wounded by arrows & spears, and their heads are cut off by swords, so that they incur death or deadly pain. Now this drawback too in the case of sensuality, this mass of stress visible here & now, has sensuality for its reason, sensuality for its source, sensuality for its cause, the reason being simply sensuality. "Again, it is with sensuality for the reason, sensuality for the source... that (men), taking swords & shields and buckling on bows & quivers, charge slippery bastions while arrows & spears are flying and swords are flashing; and there they are splashed with boiling cow dung and crushed under heavy weights, and their heads are cut off by swords, so that they incur death or deadly pain. Now this drawback too in the case of sensuality, this mass of stress visible here & now, has sensuality for its reason, sensuality for its source, sensuality for its cause, the reason being simply sensuality." http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....013.than.html In my personal practice, violence is never justified and killing is never something to be proud of, regardless of the intention or outcome.
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