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I agree Deshy. There just comes a point when there needs to be action taken, of course, go through all peaceful outlets first, but logically/realistically, you just simply cannot be a pacifist in everything. I think the Buddha had meant the first precept for everyday life, not in times of war, when there is no other option but to fight, or be killed. It's one thing to not fight back in a fist fight, another to watch your people be killed one after the other and not pick up a weapon and help the helpless.