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**domeffire** · 05-25-2012, 08:41 PM

I think Element and I are interpreting "inherent existence" differently than most of the other forumers who have posted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svabhav...C4.81na_sutras

"In the Mahāyāna sutras
In the Prajñāpāramitā sutras, the early Buddhist notion of no-self (anatta) is extended to all objects, so that all things are emptiness (śūnyatā), without inherent existence (svabhāva).[6][7]"

I think your right. Mahayana defines "inherent existence" differently than than the Theravadin literature.

In the Pāli canon, "sabhāva" is absent from what are generally considered to be the earliest texts[8] and, when found in later texts (e.g., the paracanonical Milindapañha), it generically refers to state (of mind), character or truth.[9]"

Imo, Mahayana is an extension of the Abhidhamma.

"In the post-canonical Abhidhamma literature, sabhāva is used to distinguish an irreducible, dependent, momentary phenomenon (dhamma) from a conventionally constructed object. Thus, a collection of visual and tactile phenomena might be mentally constructed into what is conventionally referred to as a "table"; but, beyond its constituent elements, a construct such as "table" lacks intrinsic existence (sabhāva).[10]"

WOW, this discussion really showed me how much I do not know or understand.

05-25-2012, 08:41 PM	#22
domeffire Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	I think Element and I are interpreting "inherent existence" differently than most of the other forumers who have posted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svabhav...C4.81na_sutras "In the Mahāyāna sutras In the Prajñāpāramitā sutras, the early Buddhist notion of no-self (anatta) is extended to all objects, so that all things are emptiness (śūnyatā), without inherent existence (svabhāva).[6][7]" I think your right. Mahayana defines "inherent existence" differently than than the Theravadin literature. In the Pāli canon, "sabhāva" is absent from what are generally considered to be the earliest texts[8] and, when found in later texts (e.g., the paracanonical Milindapañha), it generically refers to state (of mind), character or truth.[9]" Imo, Mahayana is an extension of the Abhidhamma. "In the post-canonical Abhidhamma literature, sabhāva is used to distinguish an irreducible, dependent, momentary phenomenon (dhamma) from a conventionally constructed object. Thus, a collection of visual and tactile phenomena might be mentally constructed into what is conventionally referred to as a "table"; but, beyond its constituent elements, a construct such as "table" lacks intrinsic existence (sabhāva).[10]" WOW, this discussion really showed me how much I do not know or understand.
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