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**uphokyhuP** · 05-29-2012, 05:39 PM

the universe does not have an inherent existence. Just like the chariot does not have an inherent existence, because its existence depends on its components, the existence of the universe also depends on its various elements.

Yuan

i defined the universe as a mass of change or swirl. the 'swirlishness' has inherent existence, just as impermanence has inherent existence

as i said, impermanence is not something impermanent. impermanence has inherent existence because impermanence is permanent

in the same way, the universe (which unlike the chariot) has inherent existence

the chariot has a function based on its permanence. when its permanence ceases, the chariot ceases

but the universe is not the same because the function of the universe is to evolve & change infinitely (unlike the chariot)

05-29-2012, 05:39 PM	#31
uphokyhuP Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	the universe does not have an inherent existence. Just like the chariot does not have an inherent existence, because its existence depends on its components, the existence of the universe also depends on its various elements. Yuan i defined the universe as a mass of change or swirl. the 'swirlishness' has inherent existence, just as impermanence has inherent existence as i said, impermanence is not something impermanent. impermanence has inherent existence because impermanence is permanent in the same way, the universe (which unlike the chariot) has inherent existence the chariot has a function based on its permanence. when its permanence ceases, the chariot ceases but the universe is not the same because the function of the universe is to evolve & change infinitely (unlike the chariot)
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