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**ignonsoli** · 04-03-2012, 02:17 AM

I dont see the Dalai Lama's statement as irrational! The "natural law" theory in ethics has been supported by geniuses such as Aristotle and Thomas Aquinas so calling it irrational is a bit harsh in my opinion.

Well, I think his quote is irrational according to natural law. If you know please quote where the said geniuses are saying that sexual organs exist merely for the purpose of reproduction please?

Natural law has various interpretations. A tool like that can be twisted and distorted to set boundaries to natural human behaviour. It is natural human behaviour to use sexual organs for the purpose of pleasure. Don't believe me; just observe nature. Some philosophical theorists seem to suggest that heterosexuals union merely for the purpose of reproduction. Saying so is denying nature considering the amount of birth control, abortions and unwanted pregnancy issues among heterosexuals. People don't seem to have sex to have babies. They in fact don't want to have babies every time they have sex. The natural tendency of a vast majority (aka a big part of nature) seems to be "sex for pleasure". Pleasure seeking is just the way things are in nature. Reproduction is just a result of pleasure seeking, at least in most cases.

Now, saying one form of unharmful pleasure seeking is ethically acceptable and the other is not, is in fact distorting the spirit of natural law imo. Such ethical boundaries fall into the realm of man-made laws; not natural laws.

Applying natural law in ethical or political administering is for the purpose of this:

The Natural Law Party brings to politics the knowledge through which human life can be raised to the same level of perfection with which Natural Law eternally governs the entire universe. Every individual and every area of society can enjoy the effortless skill in action that characterises Natural Law itself. As I see it, applying natural law theories to ethics or politics is for the purpose of streamlining man-made laws in harmony with nature and society's natural tendencies and behaviours; not to promote separatism or oppress one part of the population.

04-03-2012, 02:17 AM	#32
ignonsoli Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 403 Senior Member	I dont see the Dalai Lama's statement as irrational! The "natural law" theory in ethics has been supported by geniuses such as Aristotle and Thomas Aquinas so calling it irrational is a bit harsh in my opinion. Well, I think his quote is irrational according to natural law. If you know please quote where the said geniuses are saying that sexual organs exist merely for the purpose of reproduction please? Natural law has various interpretations. A tool like that can be twisted and distorted to set boundaries to natural human behaviour. It is natural human behaviour to use sexual organs for the purpose of pleasure. Don't believe me; just observe nature. Some philosophical theorists seem to suggest that heterosexuals union merely for the purpose of reproduction. Saying so is denying nature considering the amount of birth control, abortions and unwanted pregnancy issues among heterosexuals. People don't seem to have sex to have babies. They in fact don't want to have babies every time they have sex. The natural tendency of a vast majority (aka a big part of nature) seems to be "sex for pleasure". Pleasure seeking is just the way things are in nature. Reproduction is just a result of pleasure seeking, at least in most cases. Now, saying one form of unharmful pleasure seeking is ethically acceptable and the other is not, is in fact distorting the spirit of natural law imo. Such ethical boundaries fall into the realm of man-made laws; not natural laws. Applying natural law in ethical or political administering is for the purpose of this: The Natural Law Party brings to politics the knowledge through which human life can be raised to the same level of perfection with which Natural Law eternally governs the entire universe. Every individual and every area of society can enjoy the effortless skill in action that characterises Natural Law itself. As I see it, applying natural law theories to ethics or politics is for the purpose of streamlining man-made laws in harmony with nature and society's natural tendencies and behaviours; not to promote separatism or oppress one part of the population.
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