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**Morageort** · 03-05-2012, 10:21 AM

I just needed lunch. If I wanted to choose, I needed to arrive to the cafe earlier! But definitely did not prefer the roast beef

But I was referring to the need to communicate. For example, in Zen enlightenment, can we ask: "Pass the salt, please?"

Or is the concept of "salt" unenlightenment?

Gassho

Of course in Zen you can ask "Pass the salt please" if you need salt.

In terms of the need to communicate, it depends entirely on the context. In a koan session, for instance, "Pass the salt please" may require an entirely different answer than if the same question was asked at the dining table, where it would require an action-answer rather than a word-answer.

In terms of your original question then, if you were acting mindfully (which is the point of my question: "Did you want corned beef or not?") then yes, using the term "corned beef sandwich" is taking you closer to Buddhahood.

03-05-2012, 10:21 AM	#26
Morageort Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	I just needed lunch. If I wanted to choose, I needed to arrive to the cafe earlier! But definitely did not prefer the roast beef But I was referring to the need to communicate. For example, in Zen enlightenment, can we ask: "Pass the salt, please?" Or is the concept of "salt" unenlightenment? Gassho Of course in Zen you can ask "Pass the salt please" if you need salt. In terms of the need to communicate, it depends entirely on the context. In a koan session, for instance, "Pass the salt please" may require an entirely different answer than if the same question was asked at the dining table, where it would require an action-answer rather than a word-answer. In terms of your original question then, if you were acting mindfully (which is the point of my question: "Did you want corned beef or not?") then yes, using the term "corned beef sandwich" is taking you closer to Buddhahood.
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