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Old 01-07-2012, 12:57 PM   #25
Gadarett

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the Four Noble Truths are as follows:

1. Attachment to the five aggregates is suffering

2. The origin of suffering is the arising of craving

3. The cessation of suffering is the cessation of craving

4. The Noble Eightfold Path is the way to the cessation of craving

If people with a birth defect can realise the Four Noble Truths, they will cease to suffer

Physical sickness, injury or deformity is not suffering

When the Buddha was dying his body had great pain & sickness but his mind did not suffer

If we are interested in learning about Buddhism, the following scripture is a clear explanation of suffering & its cessation

Kind regards

Hi Element;

I agree with all you have to say except this one thing (and maybe there's a good explanation which harmonizes on this topic)

Are you saying that suffering pain, in and of itself, isn't suffering because there are beings that don't suffer when exposed to painful physical conditions? I have always through the the Buddha taught that there are three types of suffering, physical pain (we call it suffering of suffering), suffering of change (pleasure doesn't last), and pervasive suffering, which are the continuously produced results of constantly misperceiving self and phenomena and then acting upon all the consequences of the ignorance (which holds them to be self-existent), which gives rise to a mass of mental fabrications, likes, dislikes, desires, cravings, etc.

Can you clarify why the first type of suffering mentioned here is not considered suffering? Perhaps it's just a difference in how traditions present suffering?

thanks

tj
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