DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post

**N95FzmMw** · 01-06-2012, 04:51 PM

Off topic posts moved from ''Born with a birth defect'' thread to this new topic
"Enlightened, then death...then what?"

kind regards

Admin
.

.................................................. .................................................. ........................

Hi Aloka and Kaarine,

I understand what you are saying, and understand why you or others might not want to consider kamma as literal. That's fine. I also agree that pay attention to the here and now is more important, since even if one believes in kamma and rebirth, unless one is enlightened, one cannot necessary know one's past deeds and there is no reason to speculate on it. That's all cool.

But my question for you two, or others is, then is what is your personal goal for practicing Buddhism? Let us say that a person is enlightened, and then he dies and then he is no more. Then what? Is there a point for that person to reach enlightenment, whatever your definition of enlightenment is?

Just curious. Since this line of thoughts is rare among Chinese/Taiwanese Buddhists.

BTW, in What Is Karma? Mr. Mcleod wrote that "The full term for karma in Tibetan is las.rgyu.abras which in translation yields action-seed-result.". In Chinese, it is more like "possibility-conditions fulfillment(dependent origination)-result", - which is how I interpret karma. It differs in a subtle way than his English translation of the Tibetan version, but a lot different than "cause-effect."

01-06-2012, 04:51 PM	#1
N95FzmMw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 334 Senior Member	Enlightened, then death...then what ? Off topic posts moved from ''Born with a birth defect'' thread to this new topic "Enlightened, then death...then what?" kind regards Admin . .................................................. .................................................. ........................ Hi Aloka and Kaarine, I understand what you are saying, and understand why you or others might not want to consider kamma as literal. That's fine. I also agree that pay attention to the here and now is more important, since even if one believes in kamma and rebirth, unless one is enlightened, one cannot necessary know one's past deeds and there is no reason to speculate on it. That's all cool. But my question for you two, or others is, then is what is your personal goal for practicing Buddhism? Let us say that a person is enlightened, and then he dies and then he is no more. Then what? Is there a point for that person to reach enlightenment, whatever your definition of enlightenment is? Just curious. Since this line of thoughts is rare among Chinese/Taiwanese Buddhists. BTW, in What Is Karma? Mr. Mcleod wrote that "The full term for karma in Tibetan is las.rgyu.abras which in translation yields action-seed-result.". In Chinese, it is more like "possibility-conditions fulfillment(dependent origination)-result", - which is how I interpret karma. It differs in a subtle way than his English translation of the Tibetan version, but a lot different than "cause-effect."
	Quote