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Enlightened, then death...then what ?
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01-07-2012, 12:36 PM
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GeraldCortis
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Yuan,
Thanks for your kind tone so to adress the issue,
My take is this,
It is known that there is the believe of a stream of consiousness... that Buddha didn't taught. As Element pointed somewhere, this debate has been adress before, in the time Lazy Eye was posting in a more regular basis.
There is too, the concept of an alaya vijñana... the Buddha didn't taught that also.
So the author, I think, is making that clear.
There is people that has taken refuge in the teachings of Buddha; the early ones. I understand that taken refuge in his teachings is about verification of their efficacy through its practice and evaluation of results. Also the understanding aspect is about something that resonates or touches deeply the heart, because it fits with the nature of things as they are and not as we wish to be.
The experience of a still mind, a quite mind, a peaceful mind happens with the giving up or letting go of any view, hope or speculation about after death enduring events.
Some members here believe in something that endures. I can't hold on believes. This particular feature fit with what the Buddha taught.
Many suttas that adress in a definitive way the complete quenching of Dukkha, thus, the final liberation or awakening is taught in the suttas, with this final closing statement:
"He discerns that 'Birth is ended, the holy life fulfilled, the task done.
There is nothing further for this world.
" This quality of mind don't holds on believes, do not yearns, do not crave, do not speculate and has realized This is not mine, this is not my self, this I am not.
This, IMO, talks about definitive awakening. The statement, for example, is the case of the
Anatta-lakkhana Sutta
which teaches:
Seeing thus, the well-instructed disciple of the noble ones grows
disenchanted with form, disenchanted with feeling, disenchanted with perception, disenchanted with fabrications, disenchanted with consciousness.
Disenchanted, he becomes dispassionate. Through dispassion, he is fully released. With full release, there is the knowledge, 'Fully released.' He discerns that 'Birth is ended, the holy life fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for this world.' The author, IMO, is making clear this core aspect of Buddha teachings where there is no room for the believe of streams or "seeds" sown somewhere in the khandas, from past consiousness experiences.
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