[Grennios]

dear srivajaya,

some very interesting points here , on the subject of emptyness and the correct teaching of ,

so the genie is well out of the bottle on this.

yes , we live in an age of advancement , we have access to so much information , yet lack the much needed guidance .
therefore there is allways the danger that without that guidance we might grossly missenturpret what we have before us .

My personal experience was that deep intellectual understanding of the matter was touted as a prerequisite to a direct experience and thus enlightenment, hence my interest and study of the subject. I have come across this allso , (but in the correct study order) it is important otherwise we will find it very hard to come to the correct understanding .

in the wrong order it could be missleading , if not dangerous .


My main concern is that the philosophical position is, in fact, a kind of reification and misses what Buddha was really teaching. yes , this is where I wished to stress the need to examine carefully , we need to examine carefully , just because it is written , it dosent mean it should be counted as infalible , that would be foolish , any way we need to examine to make certain , allso to fix the understanding in our way of thinking .

from right understanding comes right thought , from right thought comes right action ......

But why is this when we know that later Buddhists did have a position - ie. the Two Truths? I think I had better answer this seperately , i'll return to it later.


I believe the reason why Buddha showed no interest in these philosophical positions was not due to any assessment on their validity per se, simply that they were irrelevant to the work in hand. agian withthis I totaly agree


The philosopher, the intellectual mind is always seeking a basis, an ultimate, a position he can adhere to and claim as valid. Buddha describes such an undertaking as: "a thicket of veiws " , "a fetter "


yes , that which detracts from the first atainment ,

I reffer back to the eight fold path ,
right understanding leads on to right thought ,
but without right understanding , no right thought .

walk first , before even thinking to run !

but it is all to accessable and we canot resist ,
as you say "the gene is well out of the bottle here "


namaskars ratikala