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**esanamaserrn** · 09-23-2011, 12:38 PM

Hi A-D

It seems that our friends here (and I) believe that it’s not necessary to speculate about that stuff.
As for me, I used to be in coma and stayed in ICU for a month and got a lot near death experiences but never saw a light or a glimpsed of any next life. ;-)

By the way, what’s interesting is why most people still believe in the rebirth (reincarnation) even they never believe in any religions?
I believe it comes form their fears that they don’t have a second chance to do what they have to do.

Once Ajarn Payut (who wrote “Buddhadharma”, sorry I’m not good at transliteration) explained to my friends and I that it was like when someone died down here, after that there might be a plant grew up on that spot. It was not that the soul of that person became the tree. It was just a process (of conditionality.) Because this exists, so that does (Idappaccayatā.)

Another interesting is the different interpretations of paṭicca-samuppāda. And as for as I know (30 years ago) there were only Ajarn Payut and Ajarn Buddhadasa who didn’t interpreted it as the reincarnation sense.

09-23-2011, 12:38 PM	#5
esanamaserrn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	Hi A-D It seems that our friends here (and I) believe that it’s not necessary to speculate about that stuff. As for me, I used to be in coma and stayed in ICU for a month and got a lot near death experiences but never saw a light or a glimpsed of any next life. ;-) By the way, what’s interesting is why most people still believe in the rebirth (reincarnation) even they never believe in any religions? I believe it comes form their fears that they don’t have a second chance to do what they have to do. Once Ajarn Payut (who wrote “Buddhadharma”, sorry I’m not good at transliteration) explained to my friends and I that it was like when someone died down here, after that there might be a plant grew up on that spot. It was not that the soul of that person became the tree. It was just a process (of conditionality.) Because this exists, so that does (Idappaccayatā.) Another interesting is the different interpretations of paṭicca-samuppāda. And as for as I know (30 years ago) there were only Ajarn Payut and Ajarn Buddhadasa who didn’t interpreted it as the reincarnation sense.
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