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**soydaykam** · 11-10-2011, 10:48 PM

Yes, and there can also sometimes be dangers to the community as well as to the addict's own life.

I've also worked with the children of addicts and seen first hand how it affects families.

Sometimes even potentially fatal ones that are not always apparent such as the spread of blood born diseases amongst IV drug users.

With regards to families, it brought up a couple of memories, I once went to see some friends who were cannabis smokers, they sold cannabis to supplement there welfare payments. My mate had split up from his partner and his little son had come to stay with him. Someone knocked on the door and the little boy ran up opened it and said calmly "not gone none". It made me think about things, very deeply at the time.

Another story - I heard this one from a friend who was addicted to opiates, it shocked even my mate who is a pretty hardened guy, he was always kind though, he'd feed people who were hungry and give people a bed for a night or two if they needed it. He was at someones house and a very young girl picked up a piece of used foil from smoking heroin she out it in her mouth and said "I'm having a toot toot" (tooting is an english drug slang term for smoking heroin).

Kris has a point. Some of us aren't is born into wisdom, the experiences of the child shape the adult, not that the actions of the adult are ok, just an inevitable consequences of the experience of the child. But sometimes and I'm speaking from my own new found understanding, all it really takes is a little kindness, nurturing and guidance coupled with a sincere desire to learn for those who are suffering to wake up and start to see things as they are.

Edit: There's a line from the film Drugstore Cowboy, it kind of relates to impermanence, I'm going to paraphrase it here as its been a long time since I've seen the film - "Most people don't know how they are goling to feel from one minute to the next - a drug addict knows exactly how they are going to feel from one minute to the next".

11-10-2011, 10:48 PM	#17
soydaykam Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	Yes, and there can also sometimes be dangers to the community as well as to the addict's own life. I've also worked with the children of addicts and seen first hand how it affects families. Sometimes even potentially fatal ones that are not always apparent such as the spread of blood born diseases amongst IV drug users. With regards to families, it brought up a couple of memories, I once went to see some friends who were cannabis smokers, they sold cannabis to supplement there welfare payments. My mate had split up from his partner and his little son had come to stay with him. Someone knocked on the door and the little boy ran up opened it and said calmly "not gone none". It made me think about things, very deeply at the time. Another story - I heard this one from a friend who was addicted to opiates, it shocked even my mate who is a pretty hardened guy, he was always kind though, he'd feed people who were hungry and give people a bed for a night or two if they needed it. He was at someones house and a very young girl picked up a piece of used foil from smoking heroin she out it in her mouth and said "I'm having a toot toot" (tooting is an english drug slang term for smoking heroin). Kris has a point. Some of us aren't is born into wisdom, the experiences of the child shape the adult, not that the actions of the adult are ok, just an inevitable consequences of the experience of the child. But sometimes and I'm speaking from my own new found understanding, all it really takes is a little kindness, nurturing and guidance coupled with a sincere desire to learn for those who are suffering to wake up and start to see things as they are. Edit: There's a line from the film Drugstore Cowboy, it kind of relates to impermanence, I'm going to paraphrase it here as its been a long time since I've seen the film - "Most people don't know how they are goling to feel from one minute to the next - a drug addict knows exactly how they are going to feel from one minute to the next".
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