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**2puO4Rhf** · 11-02-2011, 05:26 PM

B12 is stored in the body. Your daughter ate it for 10 years.

Just because you don't have a deficiency yet doesn't mean you won't have one eventually, or that others won't. My mom is a smoker and doesn't have cancer yet, does that make smoking natural?

This is just simple biology. I've been a vegan myself. I'm not shitting on anyone, and I still don't support the animal industry in any way. Just saying vegan mythology is flawed, and that ecology is more important than morality.

The Buddha got his B12 from meat. Hindu vegetarians get it from milk. Cows are sacred in India because cattle are worth more alive than dead. That's where "ahimsa" stems from. It's not about compassion, it's about property.

I know of at least one person in my area who were taken to the emergency for shots because she almost died from her vitamin B12 deficiency, by the way.

The requirement for vitamin B12 is very low, however, it is needed for cell division and blood formation.
As you ahve identified, neither plants nor animals can make vitamin B12.
Bacteria are responsible for producing vitamin B12 and animals get their vitamin B12 from eating foods contaminated with vitamin B12 and then the animal becomes a source of vitamin B12.
Plant foods do not contain vitamin B12 except when they are contaminated by microorganisms or have vitamin B12 added to them. Thus, vegans need to look to fortified foods or supplements to get vitamin B12 in their diet.
My daughter and I, plus my son and hubby frequently due to it being the only milk left in our fridge) , have vitamin B12 fortified soymilk.
This was especially important for me when I was pregnant with both of my children ( in 1995 -96 and 2001- 02 ) and as for all lactating women ( I breatsfed my daughter for 12 months and my son for significantly longer - how much longer may distress some members so I will refrain from sharing ).
It is also recommended for vegan children to have reliable sources of vitamin B12 in their diets.
I do not strictly enquire about all ingredients which have gone into every item of food which I eat - my family and friends have come to know what I like and chose to eat - with all things though, people and relationships are more important to me than anything else.

11-02-2011, 05:26 PM	#16
2puO4Rhf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 424 Senior Member	B12 is stored in the body. Your daughter ate it for 10 years. Just because you don't have a deficiency yet doesn't mean you won't have one eventually, or that others won't. My mom is a smoker and doesn't have cancer yet, does that make smoking natural? This is just simple biology. I've been a vegan myself. I'm not shitting on anyone, and I still don't support the animal industry in any way. Just saying vegan mythology is flawed, and that ecology is more important than morality. The Buddha got his B12 from meat. Hindu vegetarians get it from milk. Cows are sacred in India because cattle are worth more alive than dead. That's where "ahimsa" stems from. It's not about compassion, it's about property. I know of at least one person in my area who were taken to the emergency for shots because she almost died from her vitamin B12 deficiency, by the way. The requirement for vitamin B12 is very low, however, it is needed for cell division and blood formation. As you ahve identified, neither plants nor animals can make vitamin B12. Bacteria are responsible for producing vitamin B12 and animals get their vitamin B12 from eating foods contaminated with vitamin B12 and then the animal becomes a source of vitamin B12. Plant foods do not contain vitamin B12 except when they are contaminated by microorganisms or have vitamin B12 added to them. Thus, vegans need to look to fortified foods or supplements to get vitamin B12 in their diet. My daughter and I, plus my son and hubby frequently due to it being the only milk left in our fridge) , have vitamin B12 fortified soymilk. This was especially important for me when I was pregnant with both of my children ( in 1995 -96 and 2001- 02 ) and as for all lactating women ( I breatsfed my daughter for 12 months and my son for significantly longer - how much longer may distress some members so I will refrain from sharing ). It is also recommended for vegan children to have reliable sources of vitamin B12 in their diets. I do not strictly enquire about all ingredients which have gone into every item of food which I eat - my family and friends have come to know what I like and chose to eat - with all things though, people and relationships are more important to me than anything else.
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