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**Z1IRo4Ap** · 11-03-2011, 06:43 AM

What is the motivation to be a Vegan? I understand why some people don't eat meat but I don't see the logic in not eating unfertilised eggs or milk. This is a genuine enquiry and not meant as criticism

namaste karma ,

some of my reasoning behind the choice to become vegan was ,,,,, as a long term vegetarian and seeing no need to cause needless suffering , I became aware that in order to produce an endless supply of cheap milk cows were kept in terible conditions , an average cow lives naturaly for around 20 years , the average dairy cow might live for 6 years before she is worn out , so being of no comercial use she is slaughtered

if that isnt enough , she is artificialy inseminated as soon as she is able to carry , her calf is taken away from her which causes her great distress , if it is female it will be reared for the same torturous life as its mother , however if it is a boy ? veal and ham pie !after all the cow only gives milk after giving birth , as a nation we use so much milk , where do you put all the calves ?so that unfortunately means a large percentage meet an early death just to provide milk

not nice so I gave it up !!!

eggs ? the conditions I saw chickens being kept in , was one of the reasons I becam vegetarian in the first place , and honey ? comercial producers remove the store of honey intended for rearing the young with sugar water , we eat their honey , the young of the hive get the cheap substitute to fallback on ...... is that fair ?

it is because of mass consumerism and the desire to manipulate nature for money its a big descision for some people , but it was a natural progression to me .

if you look to india where the largest proportion of the population was pure vegetarian , and holding the cow as sacred , the cow was kept for milk , but that milk was taken after the calf had naturaly suckeled , and was not torn away from the mother , saddly india is changing too , comercial gain is taking over from humanity , they are following our bad example

sorry not a very uplifting post , but unfortunately the truth of the matter , (and this is simply the tip of the iceberg )

namaskars

ratikala

11-03-2011, 06:43 AM	#19
Z1IRo4Ap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	What is the motivation to be a Vegan? I understand why some people don't eat meat but I don't see the logic in not eating unfertilised eggs or milk. This is a genuine enquiry and not meant as criticism namaste karma , some of my reasoning behind the choice to become vegan was ,,,,, as a long term vegetarian and seeing no need to cause needless suffering , I became aware that in order to produce an endless supply of cheap milk cows were kept in terible conditions , an average cow lives naturaly for around 20 years , the average dairy cow might live for 6 years before she is worn out , so being of no comercial use she is slaughtered if that isnt enough , she is artificialy inseminated as soon as she is able to carry , her calf is taken away from her which causes her great distress , if it is female it will be reared for the same torturous life as its mother , however if it is a boy ? veal and ham pie !after all the cow only gives milk after giving birth , as a nation we use so much milk , where do you put all the calves ?so that unfortunately means a large percentage meet an early death just to provide milk not nice so I gave it up !!! eggs ? the conditions I saw chickens being kept in , was one of the reasons I becam vegetarian in the first place , and honey ? comercial producers remove the store of honey intended for rearing the young with sugar water , we eat their honey , the young of the hive get the cheap substitute to fallback on ...... is that fair ? it is because of mass consumerism and the desire to manipulate nature for money its a big descision for some people , but it was a natural progression to me . if you look to india where the largest proportion of the population was pure vegetarian , and holding the cow as sacred , the cow was kept for milk , but that milk was taken after the calf had naturaly suckeled , and was not torn away from the mother , saddly india is changing too , comercial gain is taking over from humanity , they are following our bad example sorry not a very uplifting post , but unfortunately the truth of the matter , (and this is simply the tip of the iceberg ) namaskars ratikala
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