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**cemDrymnVem** · 10-30-2011, 11:54 AM

Irrelevant.

It doesn't take a great deal of insight or common sense to see its relevance to the statement: "If all of these sects were to..." If you can interpret the metaphors and similes in the Pali suttas, this should not be a challenge.

Tell that to the ones vowing to "save all beings". "Trying to make the world conform to one's lofty ideals" and "not finding peace with the way the world actually is" is the domain and mandate of the superstitious. In this thread, it's a Straw Man. Yet another straw man claim? To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail, I guess.

And I don't think it's a straw man. I think you just don't (yet?) see how you've fallen into the same emotional trap as those you rail against. It's not the "domain and mandate of the superstitious," because there are a lot of non-superstitious people who have lofty ideals and rant and rave when the world doesn't conform to them. Anyone from politicians to engineers to Theravadin monks are subject to that same trap.

(How many strawmen did I construct this time?

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10-30-2011, 11:54 AM	#25
cemDrymnVem Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	Irrelevant. It doesn't take a great deal of insight or common sense to see its relevance to the statement: "If all of these sects were to..." If you can interpret the metaphors and similes in the Pali suttas, this should not be a challenge. Tell that to the ones vowing to "save all beings". "Trying to make the world conform to one's lofty ideals" and "not finding peace with the way the world actually is" is the domain and mandate of the superstitious. In this thread, it's a Straw Man. Yet another straw man claim? To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail, I guess. And I don't think it's a straw man. I think you just don't (yet?) see how you've fallen into the same emotional trap as those you rail against. It's not the "domain and mandate of the superstitious," because there are a lot of non-superstitious people who have lofty ideals and rant and rave when the world doesn't conform to them. Anyone from politicians to engineers to Theravadin monks are subject to that same trap. (How many strawmen did I construct this time? )
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