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**Vmysobfi** · 10-30-2011, 11:57 AM

MN 60 was preached to brahmins, those whom Sariputta might have considered "settled and determined on heaven".

hi Dave

i do not see the relevence of your point about Sariputta

in other words, it does not make the mundane right view the Buddha often taught "non-Buddhist"

the mundane right view serves as the basis of right view & right conduct for a Buddhist layperson & also for a Buddhist monk

although an enlightened Buddhist monk may transform 'his mother & father' into mere empty dependently originated phenomena (dhatu), when giving a public speech, for example, about his mother & father, the enlightened Buddhist still must speak in conventional language & accord with the mundane right view

in short, i think it is strongly argueable that the mundane right view is "Buddhist" rather than Brahministic

with metta

When this was said, the brahman householders of Sala said, "Magnificent, master Gotama! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost or to carry a lamp into the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way has master Gotama — through many lines of reasoning — made the Dhamma clear. We go to master Gotama for refuge, to the Dhamma and to the Community of monks. May master Gotama remember us as lay followers who have gone to him for refuge, from this day forward, for life."

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Vmysobfi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	MN 60 was preached to brahmins, those whom Sariputta might have considered "settled and determined on heaven". hi Dave i do not see the relevence of your point about Sariputta in other words, it does not make the mundane right view the Buddha often taught "non-Buddhist" the mundane right view serves as the basis of right view & right conduct for a Buddhist layperson & also for a Buddhist monk although an enlightened Buddhist monk may transform 'his mother & father' into mere empty dependently originated phenomena (dhatu), when giving a public speech, for example, about his mother & father, the enlightened Buddhist still must speak in conventional language & accord with the mundane right view in short, i think it is strongly argueable that the mundane right view is "Buddhist" rather than Brahministic with metta When this was said, the brahman householders of Sala said, "Magnificent, master Gotama! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost or to carry a lamp into the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way has master Gotama — through many lines of reasoning — made the Dhamma clear. We go to master Gotama for refuge, to the Dhamma and to the Community of monks. May master Gotama remember us as lay followers who have gone to him for refuge, from this day forward, for life."
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