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**MyLeva** · 10-30-2011, 08:47 PM

it seems like you may have not read the excerpts i quoted

I did, and I am quite familiar with MN 60, thanks. "Praised by the wise" does not mean "this is my liberative teachings". The Buddha's own teaching is represented in the hierarchy as the cessation of becoming.

definitely not irrelevent
Certainly irrelevant.

it seems like you may have missed the Snake Sutta i posted
I did not. It does not apply, and your use of it here is mere Ad Hominem.

the Buddha listed his followers as sixfold:

1. arahants
2. non-returners
3. once-returners
4. stream-enterers
5. dhamma-followers
6. faith-followers

as i said, for faith followers, the Pali suttas also show the Buddha taught a kind of 'Tantra', where faith & love in the Triple Gem served as objects of devotion
"A kind of" with a good bit of equivocation. But I have said nothing of tantra here. Please keep to the topic.

10-30-2011, 08:47 PM	#27
MyLeva Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	it seems like you may have not read the excerpts i quoted I did, and I am quite familiar with MN 60, thanks. "Praised by the wise" does not mean "this is my liberative teachings". The Buddha's own teaching is represented in the hierarchy as the cessation of becoming. definitely not irrelevent Certainly irrelevant. it seems like you may have missed the Snake Sutta i posted I did not. It does not apply, and your use of it here is mere Ad Hominem. the Buddha listed his followers as sixfold: 1. arahants 2. non-returners 3. once-returners 4. stream-enterers 5. dhamma-followers 6. faith-followers as i said, for faith followers, the Pali suttas also show the Buddha taught a kind of 'Tantra', where faith & love in the Triple Gem served as objects of devotion "A kind of" with a good bit of equivocation. But I have said nothing of tantra here. Please keep to the topic.
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