[Zysyewgg]

Why should I interpret these words differently. If the Buddha states that "he will feel the result of that here and now, or in his next rebirth, or in some subsequent existence.", why would you conclude that the Buddha meant something different than what he said.

refer to my previous post....

you seem to be asserting and inferring what the Buddha said when we do not even know what the Buddha said ...

you are reifying a Pali term and creating a materialistic perception of what you regard "rebirth" to be

you seem picture a being being born from a woman's womb

where as i picture a mental state born as a result of kamma (action)




Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”

Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

“How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

“How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

“You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

John 3