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**leareliovag** · 09-27-2011, 07:17 AM

There are sutta passages which present it literally, and I don't see sufficient reason to speculate that he meant them otherwise.

even the Brahmin Buddhaghosa, who wrote the Visuddhimagga for a becoming in the joys of Távatiísá, did not hold such fixed views

Now, this word birth (játi) has many meanings.

For in the passage “He recollects … one birth (játi), two births” it is becoming.

In the passage, “Visákhá, there is a kind (játi) of ascetics called Nigaóþhas (Jains)” it is a monastic order.

In the passage, “Birth (játi) is included in two aggregates” t is the characteristic of whatever is formed.

In the passage, “His birth is due to the first consciousness arisen, the first cognition manifested, in the mother’s womb” (Vin I 93) it is rebirth-linking.

In the passage “As soon as he was born (sampatijáta), Ánanda, the Bodhisatta …” it is parturition.

In the passage “One who is not rejected and despised on account of birth” it is clan.

In the passage “Sister, since I was born with the noble birth” it is the Noble One’s virtue.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/a...cation2011.pdf

09-27-2011, 07:17 AM	#32
leareliovag Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 396 Senior Member	There are sutta passages which present it literally, and I don't see sufficient reason to speculate that he meant them otherwise. even the Brahmin Buddhaghosa, who wrote the Visuddhimagga for a becoming in the joys of Távatiísá, did not hold such fixed views Now, this word birth (játi) has many meanings. For in the passage “He recollects … one birth (játi), two births” it is becoming. In the passage, “Visákhá, there is a kind (játi) of ascetics called Nigaóþhas (Jains)” it is a monastic order. In the passage, “Birth (játi) is included in two aggregates” t is the characteristic of whatever is formed. In the passage, “His birth is due to the first consciousness arisen, the first cognition manifested, in the mother’s womb” (Vin I 93) it is rebirth-linking. In the passage “As soon as he was born (sampatijáta), Ánanda, the Bodhisatta …” it is parturition. In the passage “One who is not rejected and despised on account of birth” it is clan. In the passage “Sister, since I was born with the noble birth” it is the Noble One’s virtue. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/a...cation2011.pdf
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