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**DenisLevvin** · 08-25-2011, 10:24 PM

What about non-verbal awareness /clarity/emptiness and so on experienced in meditation when there is no thought and which cannot easily be described with language ? Perhaps sometimes its better not to even try to describe it.....or do you disagree?

I usually don't try to describe it, actually, so I guess I agree. I wonder if this is what Siddhartha was struggling with when he initially decided not to teach? Anyway, language is useful if it points in a helpful way. I know I definitely benefit from being pointed in a good direction. There is, though, the problem with focusing on the finger instead of what it's pointing at, but academics and meditators both are subject to that, I think. Of course, as always, I could be wrong. I'm not even asserting that I'm right, actually. Just describing what I see from this perspective. I wouldn't expect everyone to see the same thing, because every perspective is unique.

08-25-2011, 10:24 PM	#18
DenisLevvin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	What about non-verbal awareness /clarity/emptiness and so on experienced in meditation when there is no thought and which cannot easily be described with language ? Perhaps sometimes its better not to even try to describe it.....or do you disagree? I usually don't try to describe it, actually, so I guess I agree. I wonder if this is what Siddhartha was struggling with when he initially decided not to teach? Anyway, language is useful if it points in a helpful way. I know I definitely benefit from being pointed in a good direction. There is, though, the problem with focusing on the finger instead of what it's pointing at, but academics and meditators both are subject to that, I think. Of course, as always, I could be wrong. I'm not even asserting that I'm right, actually. Just describing what I see from this perspective. I wouldn't expect everyone to see the same thing, because every perspective is unique.
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