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**barsikjal** · 08-30-2011, 10:57 PM

I'd be interested to know what the eqivalent of the Jhanas is in Vajrayana. I've read that a Stream Winner in Theravada is the equivalent to first Bhumi (Bodhisattva level), so presumably such stages as 'once returner' and 'non returner' also might have an equivalent term.

As far as becoming an arahant through listening to the Buddha is concerned, I'm sure if that was the case, then the actual transmission from being in the presence of the Buddha when he was speaking would have something to do with it too. I find it difficult to believe that one could spontaneously become an arahant in the present day just from reading suttas.

However, if anyone does suddenly feel that they're an arahant, do please tell me!

08-30-2011, 10:57 PM	#38
barsikjal Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	I'd be interested to know what the eqivalent of the Jhanas is in Vajrayana. I've read that a Stream Winner in Theravada is the equivalent to first Bhumi (Bodhisattva level), so presumably such stages as 'once returner' and 'non returner' also might have an equivalent term. As far as becoming an arahant through listening to the Buddha is concerned, I'm sure if that was the case, then the actual transmission from being in the presence of the Buddha when he was speaking would have something to do with it too. I find it difficult to believe that one could spontaneously become an arahant in the present day just from reading suttas. However, if anyone does suddenly feel that they're an arahant, do please tell me!
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