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**xpllmr** · 07-29-2011, 11:39 PM

@ stuka: By "old-school", I meant Hindu. You think Nagasena was teaching the Hindu perspective by denying spiritual substance (atman)? Do you think there is a spiritual substance along with the 5 khandas? And, yes, some "new schools" also try to re-insert a spiritual substance that literally transmigrates. I believe them to be in error.

@ srivijaya: I think HHDL was being ambiguous, but not intentionally or deceitfully. I translate a lot and I know how difficult it is to be exact about subtle nuances. I don't know that much about TB, tbh. I don't know if HHDL believes in a literal transmigration of a spiritual substance or not. If he does, I'd like to see how he reconciles it with the Pali suttas. What I described in the above post is a partial summary of my own work on the question. Some of it comes from similar approaches taken by Gombrich and Siderits. But it wasn't intended to represent anyone else's view but my own. And I know I could be wrong. I've been wrong before, and I'm sure I'll be wrong again.

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xpllmr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 875 Senior Member	@ stuka: By "old-school", I meant Hindu. You think Nagasena was teaching the Hindu perspective by denying spiritual substance (atman)? Do you think there is a spiritual substance along with the 5 khandas? And, yes, some "new schools" also try to re-insert a spiritual substance that literally transmigrates. I believe them to be in error. @ srivijaya: I think HHDL was being ambiguous, but not intentionally or deceitfully. I translate a lot and I know how difficult it is to be exact about subtle nuances. I don't know that much about TB, tbh. I don't know if HHDL believes in a literal transmigration of a spiritual substance or not. If he does, I'd like to see how he reconciles it with the Pali suttas. What I described in the above post is a partial summary of my own work on the question. Some of it comes from similar approaches taken by Gombrich and Siderits. But it wasn't intended to represent anyone else's view but my own. And I know I could be wrong. I've been wrong before, and I'm sure I'll be wrong again.
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