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**k1ePRlda** · 07-18-2011, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by stuka This is the Beyond Belief forum, and yes it is a debating forum, but pointing out fallacious arguments and flawed reasoning is not limited to formal debating, either. And again you are invoking the Perspectivist Fallacy. The truth is indeed the truth, and the truth of what I am pointing out here can indeed be seen for oneself. By one who has the courage to look.

Yes this is a debating forum, the point I am making is that truth is not an argument and I have seen the truth for myself- you believe my argument is flawed, that does make it so to you.
Your assertion "that is [just] your view" is an argument. What I have stated is a matter of record. We can see this happening right here in the forum time and again, and in other forums, too. The Buddha's teachings are being presented by folks who know them and constantly rejected here because they do not accord with the "lotus sutra", the "lankavattara sutra", the "heart sutra", the "diamond sutra", the "sutras handed to the nagas and given to mortals 500 years later", etc. That is truth that we all can see for ourselves, right here, right now. Look at Keith A's sniping in this very thread. The OP itself is an example of this. It is not a function of your Perspectivist Fallacy of "you believe this, so it is so to just you". It is a function of folks who reject the Buddha's liberative teachings because they do not conform to the beliefs that have been spoon-fed to them by their gurus, their Masters, their lamas.

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k1ePRlda Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	Originally Posted by stuka This is the Beyond Belief forum, and yes it is a debating forum, but pointing out fallacious arguments and flawed reasoning is not limited to formal debating, either. And again you are invoking the Perspectivist Fallacy. The truth is indeed the truth, and the truth of what I am pointing out here can indeed be seen for oneself. By one who has the courage to look. Yes this is a debating forum, the point I am making is that truth is not an argument and I have seen the truth for myself- you believe my argument is flawed, that does make it so to you. Your assertion "that is [just] your view" is an argument. What I have stated is a matter of record. We can see this happening right here in the forum time and again, and in other forums, too. The Buddha's teachings are being presented by folks who know them and constantly rejected here because they do not accord with the "lotus sutra", the "lankavattara sutra", the "heart sutra", the "diamond sutra", the "sutras handed to the nagas and given to mortals 500 years later", etc. That is truth that we all can see for ourselves, right here, right now. Look at Keith A's sniping in this very thread. The OP itself is an example of this. It is not a function of your Perspectivist Fallacy of "you believe this, so it is so to just you". It is a function of folks who reject the Buddha's liberative teachings because they do not conform to the beliefs that have been spoon-fed to them by their gurus, their Masters, their lamas.
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