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**Squeernemergo** · 07-06-2011, 02:39 PM

Was curious to see your division of Dharmakaya being separate from svabhavakaya, and the svabhavakaya being the inseparabilyt of the three bodies. Or does that simply refer to the fact that all three bodies are empty in nature?

Welcome mudra,

These weren't my own words , in my original post I was quoting information from the glossary of 'The Life of Gampopa' by Jampa Mackenzie Stewart.

the explanation of the four bodies of a Buddha continues:

"Sometimes only two kayas are mentioned: the dharmakaya, and the rupakaya or form body. In this instance, the rupakaya encompasses both the sambhogakaya and the nirmanakaya. These are sometimes spoken of in the context of the "two benefits" : one realises the ultimate non-dual truth body of dharmakaya for one's own benefit; and one realises the relative manifestations of the rupakaya in order to benefit all sentient beings"
To answer your question, Mudra, regarding the svabhavikakaya, in "Path to Buddhahood" Ringu Tulku says:

"When we talk about four kayas the fourth is the svabhavikakaya. This is in fact the union of the three kayas, the fourth being mentioned in order to emphasise their inseparability, their union, and to show that we are speaking of three different apects of the same Buddha.
As Milarepa indicates, (in text on previous page) we can discover the three kayas within ourselves by looking directly at the nature of mind."

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Squeernemergo Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	Was curious to see your division of Dharmakaya being separate from svabhavakaya, and the svabhavakaya being the inseparabilyt of the three bodies. Or does that simply refer to the fact that all three bodies are empty in nature? Welcome mudra, These weren't my own words , in my original post I was quoting information from the glossary of 'The Life of Gampopa' by Jampa Mackenzie Stewart. the explanation of the four bodies of a Buddha continues: "Sometimes only two kayas are mentioned: the dharmakaya, and the rupakaya or form body. In this instance, the rupakaya encompasses both the sambhogakaya and the nirmanakaya. These are sometimes spoken of in the context of the "two benefits" : one realises the ultimate non-dual truth body of dharmakaya for one's own benefit; and one realises the relative manifestations of the rupakaya in order to benefit all sentient beings" To answer your question, Mudra, regarding the svabhavikakaya, in "Path to Buddhahood" Ringu Tulku says: "When we talk about four kayas the fourth is the svabhavikakaya. This is in fact the union of the three kayas, the fourth being mentioned in order to emphasise their inseparability, their union, and to show that we are speaking of three different apects of the same Buddha. As Milarepa indicates, (in text on previous page) we can discover the three kayas within ourselves by looking directly at the nature of mind."
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