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**iqxdvjgmat** · 07-01-2011, 01:29 AM

srivijaya asked:

So, from a Mahayana POV, did Buddha present (in the first turning) the complete teachings on the emptiness of persons or not? I'd always thought that the Mahayana asserted that he did. The first quote is clear he didn't but the following indicates he did?? Unfortunately, I am not sure there is anyone around here who can answer that properly. I know I certainly can't. Where is Ven. Huifeng or Anders when you need them? (No disrespect of course, to the present company. I could be wrong)

I am a simple Zen practitioner. We are just taught "don't attach to anything", including the notion of a fixed self. That doesn't mean that there is no self or that there is a self. I am not sure when this idea was presented or who taught it (other than the teachers I have direct contact with). I have found it useful, though.

07-01-2011, 01:29 AM	#8
iqxdvjgmat Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 517 Senior Member	srivijaya asked: So, from a Mahayana POV, did Buddha present (in the first turning) the complete teachings on the emptiness of persons or not? I'd always thought that the Mahayana asserted that he did. The first quote is clear he didn't but the following indicates he did?? Unfortunately, I am not sure there is anyone around here who can answer that properly. I know I certainly can't. Where is Ven. Huifeng or Anders when you need them? (No disrespect of course, to the present company. I could be wrong) I am a simple Zen practitioner. We are just taught "don't attach to anything", including the notion of a fixed self. That doesn't mean that there is no self or that there is a self. I am not sure when this idea was presented or who taught it (other than the teachers I have direct contact with). I have found it useful, though.
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