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**suidinguilelf** · 06-25-2011, 07:45 AM

For me, the term 'Empty of inherent existence' does not directly promote dispassion (viraga), cessation (nirodha) and vossaga (relinquishment), in the same way impermanence, unsatisfactoriness & not-self ('not-mine') do.

Sure. This statement, Element, could not have been said better... I rely mostly in that experience.

When I came here for the first time I was deluded by the best sellers of Thich and others like the Dali Lama. Something was not working. Beautiful books... yes... inspiring... yes of course but useless to understand deeply the very issue of Buddha: To know impermanence, to experience it, to know the unsatisfactory nature of things and to explore not-self as the cornerstone for the confidence and reliance in the teachings of Buddha toward the goal of cessation of Dukkha.

That other teachings, sold under the general concept of "teachings of the Buddha", are like the books I have about Politics, Ecology, Human Ecology and Social Sustainability with the difference that the first ones are romantic, good for inspiration and mental amusement until the last are about how to work, deal and research, seriously, with hard social facts like children in the streets, adult re-education, action research, poverty and cultural accepted violence.

06-25-2011, 07:45 AM	#12
suidinguilelf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 409 Senior Member	For me, the term 'Empty of inherent existence' does not directly promote dispassion (viraga), cessation (nirodha) and vossaga (relinquishment), in the same way impermanence, unsatisfactoriness & not-self ('not-mine') do. Sure. This statement, Element, could not have been said better... I rely mostly in that experience. When I came here for the first time I was deluded by the best sellers of Thich and others like the Dali Lama. Something was not working. Beautiful books... yes... inspiring... yes of course but useless to understand deeply the very issue of Buddha: To know impermanence, to experience it, to know the unsatisfactory nature of things and to explore not-self as the cornerstone for the confidence and reliance in the teachings of Buddha toward the goal of cessation of Dukkha. That other teachings, sold under the general concept of "teachings of the Buddha", are like the books I have about Politics, Ecology, Human Ecology and Social Sustainability with the difference that the first ones are romantic, good for inspiration and mental amusement until the last are about how to work, deal and research, seriously, with hard social facts like children in the streets, adult re-education, action research, poverty and cultural accepted violence.
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